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| 01/09/05 18:01:40+-5 | * Hamish:#debate | is mIRC'ed |
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| 01/09/05 18:03:07+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | hey guys |
| 01/09/05 18:03:20+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | sorry about that - I'm back now |
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| 01/09/05 18:03:55+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | Hi Jeremy |
| 01/09/05 18:04:01+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | hey vonfluffy :) |
| 01/09/05 18:04:23+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | come on video.. dont give up on me now |
| 01/09/05 18:04:25+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Hi VF |
| 01/09/05 18:04:31+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | hi arachnid |
| 01/09/05 18:04:38+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | oo.. i can hear stuff |
| 01/09/05 18:04:47+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | jeremy - go and dance for us |
| 01/09/05 18:04:48+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Had your ears cleaned out, then? |
| 01/09/05 18:04:59+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | nice try, but no cigar |
| 01/09/05 18:05:04+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | damn |
| 01/09/05 18:05:07+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | who's ears, sorry? |
| 01/09/05 18:05:16+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | do I know you? |
| 01/09/05 18:05:25+-5 | <Russel:#debate> | where did the music go? |
| 01/09/05 18:05:28+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | VF was commenting that he could hear stuff. |
| 01/09/05 18:05:29+-5 | <vonfluffy:#debate> | nah.. ive been at nznog for the last 2 years though |
| 01/09/05 18:05:32+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I thought that was fairly ordinary. |
| 01/09/05 18:05:33+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | it got turned off :P |
| 01/09/05 18:05:35+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | oh, ok |
| 01/09/05 18:05:39+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 18:05:48+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | I'm not here for too long |
| 01/09/05 18:06:54+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | though+ |
| 01/09/05 18:07:19+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | hey Hamish :) |
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| 01/09/05 18:07:51+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | hey BellaINZ |
| 01/09/05 18:07:52+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | hey BellaINZ |
| 01/09/05 18:07:54+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | oops |
| 01/09/05 18:07:56+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Hi Jeremy |
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| 01/09/05 18:08:57+-5 | <CGI521:#debate> | That's better |
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| 01/09/05 18:11:49+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hrm |
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| 01/09/05 18:15:12+-5 | <greig:#debate> | I don't know Plug, is it appropriate? :) |
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| 01/09/05 18:15:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | New Zealand needs to be trilingual |
| 01/09/05 18:15:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | include 'gangsta' |
| 01/09/05 18:15:42+-5 | <greig:#debate> | I speak fluent tricycle |
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| 01/09/05 18:15:57+-5 | <Audent:#debate> | greetings |
| 01/09/05 18:15:57+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 18:16:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | the server identifies itself as Undernet |
| 01/09/05 18:16:10+-5 | * Audent:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 18:16:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | needs an F:NETWORK:Citylink |
| 01/09/05 18:16:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | does your O line still apply? |
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| 01/09/05 18:16:20+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | heh yes it does Isomer |
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| 01/09/05 18:16:32+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | my script joined me to all the undernet channels for that reason |
| 01/09/05 18:16:36+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | indeed |
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| 01/09/05 18:16:46+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I'm still in /info :) |
| 01/09/05 18:16:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | heh, good effort :) |
| 01/09/05 18:17:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | its a .pl release |
| 01/09/05 18:17:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thats you isnt it? |
| 01/09/05 18:17:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | well |
| 01/09/05 18:17:14+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | if my name is "patch level" |
| 01/09/05 18:17:25+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I always wondered that |
| 01/09/05 18:17:28+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | *** Contributors to this release: |
| 01/09/05 18:17:28+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | [18:17] *** Isomer, Gte-, WildThang, David M, Run, Nemesi |
| 01/09/05 18:17:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: are you David M? |
| 01/09/05 18:17:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you are there :) |
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| 01/09/05 18:17:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | anyway |
| 01/09/05 18:17:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: David M = H? |
| 01/09/05 18:17:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | InternetNZ should have arranged a Hamilton viewing point |
| 01/09/05 18:17:59+-5 | * Audent:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 18:18:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | meanphil: got mean questions lined up? |
| 01/09/05 18:18:12+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil was keen on the hamiltonians driving up to auckland |
| 01/09/05 18:18:21+-5 | <meanphil:#debate> | not even sure why I'm here yet |
| 01/09/05 18:18:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bugger that for a joke |
| 01/09/05 18:18:21+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | at $1.52 a litre |
| 01/09/05 18:18:27+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | she has shares in an oil company |
| 01/09/05 18:18:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: get over it |
| 01/09/05 18:18:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you should have an employer |
| 01/09/05 18:18:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | they're great for offsetting that you know |
| 01/09/05 18:18:35+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Bryin, indeed |
| 01/09/05 18:19:43+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | why a Hamilton viewing point? |
| 01/09/05 18:19:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | So. Shall I summarize the outcome which I require from this debate? :) |
| 01/09/05 18:19:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | _Jeremy: cos hamilton is cool |
| 01/09/05 18:19:59+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I wonder if any Wellingtonians drove up to Auckland to watch it ;) |
| 01/09/05 18:20:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | arachnid, heh |
| 01/09/05 18:20:10+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | but just watch the webcast though! that's why we're doing it! |
| 01/09/05 18:20:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 18:20:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | its not the same as being there |
| 01/09/05 18:20:31+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we're at plugs place waiting for it to start :) |
| 01/09/05 18:20:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we can't heckle as effectively |
| 01/09/05 18:20:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Isomer: by 'we' you mean you |
| 01/09/05 18:20:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | you're there too |
| 01/09/05 18:20:51+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | and greig's trying to find transport |
| 01/09/05 18:21:02+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Doesn't he have his own internet connection? |
| 01/09/05 18:21:14+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 18:21:21+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | ahhhhh - jolly good! |
| 01/09/05 18:21:21+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | but it's about sitting and watching it with friends |
| 01/09/05 18:21:29+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | awesome :) |
| 01/09/05 18:21:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | by that he means heckling |
| 01/09/05 18:21:42+-5 | <Russel:#debate> | Hamish you there? |
| 01/09/05 18:21:45+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Plug, got any absinthe for pre election night drinking games? |
| 01/09/05 18:22:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | bryin |
| 01/09/05 18:22:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | bryin |
| 01/09/05 18:22:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | THE PETROL PRICE IS ON TV |
| 01/09/05 18:22:35+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | good for you :P |
| 01/09/05 18:22:37+-5 | <greig:#debate> | I would drive |
| 01/09/05 18:22:41+-5 | <greig:#debate> | but |
| 01/09/05 18:22:45+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | may it go up more! </stir |
| 01/09/05 18:22:46+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | > |
| 01/09/05 18:22:49+-5 | <greig:#debate> | SOME DIRTY AUCKLANDER CRASHED INTO MY CAR |
| 01/09/05 18:23:05+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 18:23:11+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | greig, rich aucklander? |
| 01/09/05 18:23:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | _Jeremy always sounds bouncy |
| 01/09/05 18:23:25+-5 | <greig:#debate> | yep |
| 01/09/05 18:23:27+-5 | <greig:#debate> | Doctor |
| 01/09/05 18:23:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "irc is exciting! :)" |
| 01/09/05 18:23:31+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | _Jeremy, you should change the F:NETWORK: config :) |
| 01/09/05 18:23:36+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hrm |
| 01/09/05 18:23:37+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | actually |
| 01/09/05 18:23:43+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | F:lines might be a 2.10.11 thing |
| 01/09/05 18:23:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | change it to say d:CAF |
| 01/09/05 18:23:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | implement d: lines |
| 01/09/05 18:23:51+-5 | <greig:#debate> | ol |
| 01/09/05 18:23:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we have d:lines |
| 01/09/05 18:23:54+-5 | <greig:#debate> | erm |
| 01/09/05 18:23:55+-5 | <greig:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 18:23:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | for DENY |
| 01/09/05 18:23:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | cool |
| 01/09/05 18:24:05+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | they're not used much tho |
| 01/09/05 18:24:06+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | deny _Jeremy smileys and exclamation points |
| 01/09/05 18:24:37+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | never :P |
| 01/09/05 18:24:58+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | but I'm not here for *that* long though! come on! |
| 01/09/05 18:24:58+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | 2.10.10 is kinda prehistoric |
| 01/09/05 18:25:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | look! a smiley and two !s in two lines |
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| 01/09/05 18:25:50+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | This channel is currently watching 3 News |
| 01/09/05 18:26:00+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | This channel is currently watching 3 News | Debate to follow at 7pm, see http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ |
| 01/09/05 18:26:16+-5 | * greig_:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 18:26:17+-5 | * _Jeremy:#debate topic | This channel is currently watching bugger all! |
| 01/09/05 18:26:20+-5 | <greig_:#debate> | ok, better |
| 01/09/05 18:26:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | _Jeremy: no |
| 01/09/05 18:26:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | don't be like that |
| 01/09/05 18:26:29+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | This channel is currently watching 3 News | Debate to follow at 7pm, see http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ |
| 01/09/05 18:26:30+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | oops - did I say that out loud? |
| 01/09/05 18:26:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | contrary is the word I was looking for |
| 01/09/05 18:26:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "Don't be contrary" |
| 01/09/05 18:27:03+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 18:27:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Current news topic is hookers in playcentres |
| 01/09/05 18:27:45+-5 | * Russel:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 18:28:09+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | wow and all i got was milk and cookies |
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| 01/09/05 18:28:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | there's a man woman on the news now |
| 01/09/05 18:28:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | its not all good, dpf |
| 01/09/05 18:29:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Tonights debate viewing is up against Campbell Live talking about petrol |
| 01/09/05 18:29:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm sick of hearing about petrol. |
| 01/09/05 18:29:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I have no petrol |
| 01/09/05 18:30:11+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | so? why not change the channel then! |
| 01/09/05 18:30:25+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | stuff the blimmin petrol! :P |
| 01/09/05 18:30:36+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | change it to mms://citylink ! |
| 01/09/05 18:30:40+-5 | <greig:#debate> | _Jeremy: spoken like a man with no car :) |
| 01/09/05 18:30:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | because IRC exists for commentating the news |
| 01/09/05 18:30:43+-5 | <greig:#debate> | actually |
| 01/09/05 18:30:50+-5 | * greig:#debate | is also a man with no car :( |
| 01/09/05 18:30:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | with no smileys or !s required |
| 01/09/05 18:30:52+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | ok - if you say so |
| 01/09/05 18:30:58+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | greig, think of how much it's saving you in petrol |
| 01/09/05 18:30:59+-5 | * _Jeremy:#debate | is too :) |
| 01/09/05 18:31:03+-5 | <greig:#debate> | Isomer: nothing |
| 01/09/05 18:31:05+-5 | <greig:#debate> | work pays |
| 01/09/05 18:31:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | oh |
| 01/09/05 18:31:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig: you want lift here? |
| 01/09/05 18:31:09+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | point |
| 01/09/05 18:31:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if jeremy starts driving now he can take you home tomorrow morning |
| 01/09/05 18:31:29+-5 | <greig:#debate> | Plug: is it too much hassle? |
| 01/09/05 18:31:35+-5 | <greig:#debate> | eep |
| 01/09/05 18:31:37+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 18:31:42+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | you have low levels of man stuff? |
| 01/09/05 18:31:42+-5 | <greig:#debate> | actually, I'll stay here |
| 01/09/05 18:31:44+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | Plug: with who's license? |
| 01/09/05 18:31:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig: taking you home is too much hassle |
| 01/09/05 18:31:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | picking you up isnt |
| 01/09/05 18:31:59+-5 | <greig:#debate> | I figured |
| 01/09/05 18:32:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | decide quickly :) |
| 01/09/05 18:32:04+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | Plug: I haven't got my own driver's license atm |
| 01/09/05 18:32:12+-5 | <greig:#debate> | well, if I can't get home, it's not worth coming is it? :) |
| 01/09/05 18:32:19+-5 | <greig:#debate> | I WANT MY CAR BACK |
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| 01/09/05 18:32:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | the couch is comfy |
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| 01/09/05 18:32:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle will come at 8pm |
| 01/09/05 18:32:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he can drop you off :) |
| 01/09/05 18:32:33+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | he can! |
| 01/09/05 18:32:34+-5 | <greig:#debate> | he won't |
| 01/09/05 18:32:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | one battery, one scotch, one beer |
| 01/09/05 18:32:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and this is why in some countries, marriage is punishment for shoplifting |
| 01/09/05 18:34:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | so what's the channel to submit questions? |
| 01/09/05 18:34:46+-5 | <nil:#debate> | is there a channelfor text of the debate? |
| 01/09/05 18:36:04+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | Not sure Lin - will check |
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| 01/09/05 18:36:11+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hi dpf |
| 01/09/05 18:36:27+-5 | <nil:#debate> | there's a channel in undernet called #nzelection as well |
| 01/09/05 18:36:31+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | questions can be asked here but note the first hour is pre prepared ones and after 8 pm we go to audience ones |
| 01/09/05 18:38:17+-5 | * nil:#debate | won't be able to pay much attention |
| 01/09/05 18:38:23+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | why isn't tv3 being broadcast then! |
| 01/09/05 18:38:29+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | *bored* |
| 01/09/05 18:38:41+-5 | <nil:#debate> | well I wondered about the lack of publicity in idg and herald btw |
| 01/09/05 18:39:23+-5 | <CGI521:#debate> | Evening Everyone |
| 01/09/05 18:39:53+-5 | * nil:#debate | looks at the list of names |
| 01/09/05 18:40:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | evening |
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| 01/09/05 18:40:51+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | Isomer: yip, surely is |
| 01/09/05 18:41:39+-5 | <greig:#debate> | dpf - "pre prepared" are hopefully not "lame and ultimately meaningless" :) |
| 01/09/05 18:41:54+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Good Evening all |
| 01/09/05 18:41:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | they're listed on the webpage |
| 01/09/05 18:41:58+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | greig: undoubtable screened to nothing :( |
| 01/09/05 18:41:59+-5 | <nil:#debate> | amazingly only 3 parties thought it important enough to participate |
| 01/09/05 18:42:17+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | http://www.internetnz.co.nz/forum/index.htm |
| 01/09/05 18:42:21+-5 | <greig:#debate> | right... |
| 01/09/05 18:42:26+-5 | * greig:#debate | awaits Pluggles |
| 01/09/05 18:42:31+-5 | <greig:#debate> | <gone> |
| 01/09/05 18:42:44+-5 | * Isomer:#debate topic | Debate to follow at 7pm: http://www.internetnz.co.nz/forum/index.htm and http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ |
| 01/09/05 18:43:36+-5 | <nil:#debate> | iso: Your host is irc.citylink.co.nz, running version u2.10.10.pl18.(release) |
| 01/09/05 18:43:37+-5 | <nil:#debate> | 8) |
| 01/09/05 18:44:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 18:44:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I saw that |
| 01/09/05 18:44:04+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Hamish: you may want to put in more controls on this channel so it isn't vulnerable |
| 01/09/05 18:44:06+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | . /info has me :) |
| 01/09/05 18:44:13+-5 | <nil:#debate> | since you are the only op in here |
| 01/09/05 18:44:17+-5 | <nil:#debate> | talk to isomer if you need help |
| 01/09/05 18:44:29+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | nil: um, no he isn't |
| 01/09/05 18:44:34+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | chan is -t |
| 01/09/05 18:44:41+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hamish is the only op |
| 01/09/05 18:44:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | is what nil was saying |
| 01/09/05 18:45:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Hi Colin |
| 01/09/05 18:45:08+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs colin |
| 01/09/05 18:45:15+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | Isomer: ah |
| 01/09/05 18:45:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hehe jeremy morphs into colin Jackson |
| 01/09/05 18:45:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil, the network hasn't been changed from Undernet either :) |
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| 01/09/05 18:45:52+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can we access the feed yet? |
| 01/09/05 18:45:55+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 18:45:59+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Hello all |
| 01/09/05 18:46:01+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | it had a "test" image |
| 01/09/05 18:46:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hmmm |
| 01/09/05 18:46:05+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, 'lo |
| 01/09/05 18:46:18+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hi keith. did you make it to Auckland |
| 01/09/05 18:46:26+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Hamish can you give me OP status please? |
| 01/09/05 18:46:35+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ooo ops begging |
| 01/09/05 18:46:36+-5 | <nil:#debate> | 8) |
| 01/09/05 18:46:38+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 18:46:39+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | howdy keith |
| 01/09/05 18:46:40+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | :-) |
| 01/09/05 18:46:50+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Hi David Lin Isomer |
| 01/09/05 18:46:51+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | hope you didn't complain about the pilot on the flight up :-) |
| 01/09/05 18:46:59+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | dpf, heh |
| 01/09/05 18:47:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | or get said pilot suspended |
| 01/09/05 18:47:16+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: does anyone have an actual script of what happened? |
| 01/09/05 18:48:25+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: I have a question that isn't in the list |
| 01/09/05 18:48:41+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil, thats for the 8pm session |
| 01/09/05 18:48:42+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | Lin- save until after 8 pm |
| 01/09/05 18:48:43+-5 | <nil:#debate> | I want to know what is their party's opinion on spam and the current antispam bill |
| 01/09/05 18:48:53+-5 | <nil:#debate> | well if I am not here, someone pl ask for me |
| 01/09/05 18:48:58+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | i will |
| 01/09/05 18:48:59+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil, I will |
| 01/09/05 18:49:00+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | what viewer do you need for the stream? |
| 01/09/05 18:49:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | if dpf doesn't |
| 01/09/05 18:49:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Bryin, mplayer under linux |
| 01/09/05 18:49:10+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | microsoft only :-) |
| 01/09/05 18:49:18+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 18:49:27+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | ignore me i have no idea |
| 01/09/05 18:49:34+-5 | <nil:#debate> | also want to know what their opinion is on ecrime like breaking into someone's computer, DDOS etc |
| 01/09/05 18:49:58+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | is someone relaying these questions? |
| 01/09/05 18:50:00+-5 | <nil:#debate> | oh and someone should ask Maurice what he thinks of his job performance the last time round and what he intends to do better this time |
| 01/09/05 18:50:03+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | or will be later on? |
| 01/09/05 18:50:04+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ has details |
| 01/09/05 18:50:10+-5 | <nil:#debate> | also Ask Cunliff for a review of his own performance pl |
| 01/09/05 18:50:29+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ie what he thinks of his job the last few years he's had it and how he intend to improve on it |
| 01/09/05 18:50:34+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | halorgium, I presume keith will |
| 01/09/05 18:50:35+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ok back to work |
| 01/09/05 18:50:42+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: hopefully I'll be out of here before 10pm 8( |
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| 01/09/05 18:53:15+-5 | <nil:#debate> | just idly wondering while we are waiting: Is it significant that the labour party members (dess and wallmansberger) are in Auckland and the national party members (dpf and some other person) are in wgtn? |
| 01/09/05 18:53:24+-5 | <nil:#debate> | 8) |
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| 01/09/05 18:54:34+-5 | * nil:#debate | waves to PDT |
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| 01/09/05 18:56:38+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | your blue |
| 01/09/05 18:56:41+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | needs to be transparent |
| 01/09/05 18:56:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | so it can be hip |
| 01/09/05 18:56:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | like vista! |
| 01/09/05 18:56:58+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: are national making wrist bands? |
| 01/09/05 18:56:59+-5 | * halorgium:#debate | waits for it to change (*hoping* |
| 01/09/05 18:57:07+-5 | <nil:#debate> | they are quite cheap in large quantities |
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| 01/09/05 18:58:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | does anyone need transcription? |
| 01/09/05 18:58:49+-5 | <nil:#debate> | iso: Ithink dess and someone else is doing it |
| 01/09/05 18:58:59+-5 | <nil:#debate> | or that's why they are there? |
| 01/09/05 18:59:11+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | well |
| 01/09/05 18:59:14+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I was thinking live transcription |
| 01/09/05 18:59:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | so they can ask questions and stuff |
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| 01/09/05 18:59:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | wee |
| 01/09/05 18:59:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | packet loss |
| 01/09/05 19:00:03+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you can embed subtitle meta data |
| 01/09/05 19:00:03+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | Isomer: delayed :S |
| 01/09/05 19:00:12+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | then deaf users can partake too :) |
| 01/09/05 19:00:21+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | should there be sound? |
| 01/09/05 19:00:27+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 19:00:32+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | not much atm |
| 01/09/05 19:00:39+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | from some elses laptop; pdt waves at nil |
| 01/09/05 19:01:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 19:01:06+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | ah |
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| 01/09/05 19:01:07+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it's 7pm |
| 01/09/05 19:01:07+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | there we go |
| 01/09/05 19:01:34+-5 | <nil:#debate> | I won't stop you if you do |
| 01/09/05 19:02:26+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | is there a remote controlled bbgun at the other end of this link somewhere? |
| 01/09/05 19:02:38+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | Kyle: at 8:05pm |
| 01/09/05 19:02:46+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | 1 minute call all |
| 01/09/05 19:02:52+-5 | * nil:#debate | wonders if halorgium knows something I don't |
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| 01/09/05 19:03:02+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | nil: of course :) |
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| 01/09/05 19:03:47+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | #debate-transcription? |
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| 01/09/05 19:03:57+-5 | <nil:#debate> | halorgium:if there's a free channel |
| 01/09/05 19:04:03+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | dummy run, which one is the dummy |
| 01/09/05 19:04:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 19:04:14+-5 | <nil:#debate> | MAXCHANNELS=10 |
| 01/09/05 19:04:18+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Can we get rid of the message in the center of the screen? |
| 01/09/05 19:05:00+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | they are mocking the questions |
| 01/09/05 19:05:01+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | and sound would be nice. |
| 01/09/05 19:05:06+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 19:05:09+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, we have sound |
| 01/09/05 19:05:14+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | yes :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:05:15+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | although intermitant |
| 01/09/05 19:05:23+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | not sure who's fault that is |
| 01/09/05 19:05:29+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | the internet here appears amusingly dodgy |
| 01/09/05 19:05:45+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | yes, for inetnz |
| 01/09/05 19:05:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | point #1 |
| 01/09/05 19:05:48+-5 | <nil:#debate> | you need super duper broadband |
| 01/09/05 19:05:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I've got two streams running here |
| 01/09/05 19:05:56+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 384 and 128 |
| 01/09/05 19:05:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | the guy on the far right looks like the nutter who went to jail for chopping hands off his girlfriends |
| 01/09/05 19:05:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | on a 2mbs connection |
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| 01/09/05 19:06:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | and they are rock solid |
| 01/09/05 19:06:15+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | I think i just accidentally closed this window damnit |
| 01/09/05 19:06:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: we have cracked open the first drink of the evening |
| 01/09/05 19:06:25+-5 | <nil:#debate> | sorry guys but I was disillusioned by both Labour and NAtional's ability to deliver the goods like broadband etc |
| 01/09/05 19:06:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Marks off to Maurice Williamson for looking like my Dad |
| 01/09/05 19:06:36+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Plug: you have to drink to all the rebuffers |
| 01/09/05 19:06:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle: there aren't nearly enough of those |
| 01/09/05 19:06:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | where are realplayer streams when youneed them |
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| 01/09/05 19:07:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | stu' |
| 01/09/05 19:07:13+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | thank you |
| 01/09/05 19:07:15+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | we feel welcome |
| 01/09/05 19:07:17+-5 | <nil:#debate> | well as it isn't multi cast I assume each person connecting to the stream = a stream |
| 01/09/05 19:07:20+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | hello! |
| 01/09/05 19:07:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | video and webcast are the same medium! :) |
| 01/09/05 19:07:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | well, they are to me I guess |
| 01/09/05 19:07:33+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | Plug: don't embarass him :) |
| 01/09/05 19:07:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | probably not to the wellington people |
| 01/09/05 19:07:35+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you didn't thank Isomer for ircu |
| 01/09/05 19:07:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | anyone here from the Wellington showing? |
| 01/09/05 19:07:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I don't need any thanks |
| 01/09/05 19:07:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | WELCOME WLUG |
| 01/09/05 19:07:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | WELCOME WLUG |
| 01/09/05 19:07:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | come on |
| 01/09/05 19:07:50+-5 | <nil:#debate> | whois bryin? |
| 01/09/05 19:07:53+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf is in wgtn |
| 01/09/05 19:07:55+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | DPF is li ve in Wellington |
| 01/09/05 19:07:57+-5 | * nil:#debate | points to colinj and dpf |
| 01/09/05 19:08:03+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 19:08:03+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hey Lin |
| 01/09/05 19:08:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he didn't welcome WLUG |
| 01/09/05 19:08:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | colinj = colin james I presume |
| 01/09/05 19:08:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | marks off |
| 01/09/05 19:08:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | no voting for that moderator |
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| 01/09/05 19:08:27+-5 | <nil:#debate> | pdt = peter dengate |
| 01/09/05 19:08:30+-5 | <nil:#debate> | jordaninz = dess |
| 01/09/05 19:08:34+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs dess |
| 01/09/05 19:08:34+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | colinj = colin jackson |
| 01/09/05 19:08:38+-5 | <JordanINZ:#debate> | W |
| 01/09/05 19:08:42+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | wow |
| 01/09/05 19:08:43+-5 | <NickW:#debate> | NickW=Nick Wallingford |
| 01/09/05 19:08:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | she needs less makeup |
| 01/09/05 19:08:50+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | too washed out here |
| 01/09/05 19:08:52+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | a little over exposed |
| 01/09/05 19:08:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | heh snap Isomer |
| 01/09/05 19:09:01+-5 | <JordanINZ:#debate> | W |
| 01/09/05 19:09:11+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | What if we're in IRC but not in Wellington? |
| 01/09/05 19:09:22+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | whoops |
| 01/09/05 19:09:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1, Lame Question |
| 01/09/05 19:09:30+-5 | <stuartyea:#debate> | well, I'm in oxford... |
| 01/09/05 19:09:31+-5 | <halorgium:#debate> | need karma bot :S |
| 01/09/05 19:09:34+-5 | <nil:#debate> | halorgiumis on irc but not in wgtn nor auckland |
| 01/09/05 19:09:37+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | turn up the volume -_- |
| 01/09/05 19:09:41+-5 | <nil:#debate> | where you are doesn't matter |
| 01/09/05 19:09:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | turn down the volume on ~thepersontalkinG? |
| 01/09/05 19:09:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | clogged up with spam including VoIP spam |
| 01/09/05 19:09:55+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | they need to be able to mute mic's not in use |
| 01/09/05 19:10:13+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i'm listening via stream -_- |
| 01/09/05 19:10:20+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | too quite :( |
| 01/09/05 19:10:21+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Keith, It is a little hard to hear the speakers. PDT comes across fine. |
| 01/09/05 19:10:44+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Where can I get petrol for $1.50 a gallon? |
| 01/09/05 19:10:45+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | bullshit bingo! |
| 01/09/05 19:10:48+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 19:10:52+-5 | <nil:#debate> | wonderwhat acronym they'll coin for voip spam. (spim = instant messaging spam) |
| 01/09/05 19:11:11+-5 | <nil:#debate> | arachnid: 91 unleaded? check out www.price-watch.co.nz |
| 01/09/05 19:11:17+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | or spivoip ... |
| 01/09/05 19:11:20+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil: "spit" is the term used |
| 01/09/05 19:11:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | normally |
| 01/09/05 19:11:30+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i like spivoip |
| 01/09/05 19:11:33+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 19:11:45+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | whoa, "digital strategy" |
| 01/09/05 19:11:55+-5 | * Willu:#debate | slaps people with snapper |
| 01/09/05 19:12:06+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: this is practise for http://www.wlug.org.nz/ElectionNightDrinkingGame |
| 01/09/05 19:12:07+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Looks like about $5.50 per gallon to me. |
| 01/09/05 19:12:07+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Much Better. |
| 01/09/05 19:12:12+-5 | * Kyle:#debate | checks Willus fisheries quota |
| 01/09/05 19:12:17+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | fight fight |
| 01/09/05 19:12:23+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | SHUT UP |
| 01/09/05 19:12:29+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | DPF always scrapping :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:12:37+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hmmm |
| 01/09/05 19:12:44+-5 | * nil:#debate | wonders if I know arachnid |
| 01/09/05 19:12:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Williamson is correct |
| 01/09/05 19:13:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BZZT wrong, sorry |
| 01/09/05 19:13:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | infrastructure is different with cable vs wireless |
| 01/09/05 19:13:29+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Very |
| 01/09/05 19:13:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we don't have a second set of power lines ot our houses do we? |
| 01/09/05 19:13:33+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | No last mile hassle, for a start |
| 01/09/05 19:13:46+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | can someone in the conference follow up on that? |
| 01/09/05 19:14:00+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | yes, bad analogy |
| 01/09/05 19:14:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Kyle, questions from the cheap seats are at 8pm |
| 01/09/05 19:14:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | the Green guy is embarrassing |
| 01/09/05 19:14:15+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Isomer: but will we forget? |
| 01/09/05 19:14:17+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | wikipage? |
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| 01/09/05 19:14:27+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I have a text editor with questions I'm adding to it |
| 01/09/05 19:14:31+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | Hi there |
| 01/09/05 19:14:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Isomer: cool |
| 01/09/05 19:14:35+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | I'm at vic uni. |
| 01/09/05 19:14:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Isomer: "vi or emacs" ? |
| 01/09/05 19:14:39+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | aenertia: hallo |
| 01/09/05 19:14:42+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | I can't get to the mms stream from here. |
| 01/09/05 19:14:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Plug, yes. |
| 01/09/05 19:14:46+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | a text editor... woah... i use notepad :P |
| 01/09/05 19:14:47+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | is there an internal address?\ |
| 01/09/05 19:14:50+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: I thought there was a clued up green guy for IT |
| 01/09/05 19:14:57+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | aenertia: ha, ha |
| 01/09/05 19:15:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: Nandor was possibly clued up |
| 01/09/05 19:15:17+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | nandon is very clued up in my meeting with him - he must be busy |
| 01/09/05 19:15:18+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | aenertia: it should work from MCS, but the 2mbps stream was problematic when I tried it this afternoon |
| 01/09/05 19:15:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he talked to WLUG and were were suitably impressed |
| 01/09/05 19:15:20+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | nandor |
| 01/09/05 19:15:26+-5 | <nil:#debate> | well he should be there! |
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| 01/09/05 19:15:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | however he isn't likely to get back in it would seem :/ |
| 01/09/05 19:15:33+-5 | * halochch:#debate | waits for q 6 |
| 01/09/05 19:15:40+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | xyzzy: it's not happening I'm keep getting conection time outs. |
| 01/09/05 19:15:47+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | I don't think it's getting through the proxy |
| 01/09/05 19:15:53+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | using mplayer <somelink> |
| 01/09/05 19:15:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 19:16:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | eContent eh |
| 01/09/05 19:16:01+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | BINGO! |
| 01/09/05 19:16:13+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | aenertia: mplayer -vo xv mmst://l3.r2.co.nz/debate-384 |
| 01/09/05 19:16:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thats a damned good point actually |
| 01/09/05 19:16:20+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Plug: You should be glad Apple isn't in charge, or we'd have to put up with iContent. |
| 01/09/05 19:16:28+-5 | <nil:#debate> | shudder |
| 01/09/05 19:16:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | sorry guys but I am not a fan of windows media player |
| 01/09/05 19:16:41+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ for streaming, add questions to http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 19:16:58+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | tried that... before I just get timeouts |
| 01/09/05 19:17:05+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | a *gone burger* |
| 01/09/05 19:17:15+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | Both from my personal machine and the 100 level lab i'm in atm |
| 01/09/05 19:17:21+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | *waits for concurrent edit issues with wlug wiki* |
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| 01/09/05 19:17:28+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | David SHUT UP |
| 01/09/05 19:17:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | thanks |
| 01/09/05 19:17:39+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Someone is looking bored, |
| 01/09/05 19:17:51+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | this isn't live? |
| 01/09/05 19:17:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yeah, like technology is so backward we can't all talk over each other |
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| 01/09/05 19:18:04+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Willu: shh, i wasn typing right then |
| 01/09/05 19:18:06+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs andy |
| 01/09/05 19:18:07+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Isomer - its a 40 second delay in the encoding |
| 01/09/05 19:18:11+-5 | <nil:#debate> | willu: we aren't talking to you? |
| 01/09/05 19:18:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, nice. |
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| 01/09/05 19:18:32+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug and others on undernet - we are also on #nzelection but there's a lot more action here |
| 01/09/05 19:18:33+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | 40 seconds? That's pretty huge, isn't it? |
| 01/09/05 19:18:40+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yah |
| 01/09/05 19:18:41+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | :( |
| 01/09/05 19:18:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: here is fine |
| 01/09/05 19:18:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we're on both |
| 01/09/05 19:18:57+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | hear out it ... |
| 01/09/05 19:19:01+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | about |
| 01/09/05 19:19:03+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i wish this was louder.... |
| 01/09/05 19:19:04+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Its being streamed at speeds up to 2 megs per second - DVD quality so takes some encoding at that level |
| 01/09/05 19:19:07+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | is that delay? |
| 01/09/05 19:19:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I can picture that guy with short hair |
| 01/09/05 19:19:31+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | That doesn't explain the long delay, though |
| 01/09/05 19:19:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I bet his long hair just lifts off |
| 01/09/05 19:19:56+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | mmm, quite likely |
| 01/09/05 19:19:59+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | i cant get mediaplayer to stay on top :( |
| 01/09/05 19:20:00+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Love the hypercolour shirt though :) |
| 01/09/05 19:20:00+-5 | * Willu:#debate | starts recording with audacity |
| 01/09/05 19:20:06+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle: its an option |
| 01/09/05 19:20:17+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | doh :( |
| 01/09/05 19:20:17+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | they won't ask our question :-( |
| 01/09/05 19:20:23+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | whatever it is |
| 01/09/05 19:20:30+-5 | <nil:#debate> | xyzzy: that is because the question time won't be till after 8pm |
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| 01/09/05 19:20:33+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Plug: doesnt want to work.. might have to restart it when i get a chance |
| 01/09/05 19:20:34+-5 | <nil:#debate> | go readamcilroy,0:0:0,0 |
| 01/09/05 19:20:34+-5 | <nil:#debate> | castleton,0:25:0,3 |
| 01/09/05 19:20:36+-5 | <nil:#debate> | argh |
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| 01/09/05 19:20:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | argh |
| 01/09/05 19:20:39+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | it only brought telecoms network down |
| 01/09/05 19:20:43+-5 | <nil:#debate> | go read stuff |
| 01/09/05 19:20:46+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | nil: they don't all seem to have been informed of this |
| 01/09/05 19:20:47+-5 | <nil:#debate> | oops |
| 01/09/05 19:20:55+-5 | <nil:#debate> | go read the internetnz page on it |
| 01/09/05 19:21:02+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | telecom is not |
| 01/09/05 19:21:06+-5 | <nil:#debate> | xyzzy: either the mediator isn't doing his job or something then |
| 01/09/05 19:21:10+-5 | <nil:#debate> | he should have told all of teh rules |
| 01/09/05 19:21:14+-5 | <moot:#debate> | he can't say "EFTPOS". yay. |
| 01/09/05 19:21:29+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | bollocks about the isps in the country when he became minister |
| 01/09/05 19:21:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | asjl: they wouldn't have been very public. |
| 01/09/05 19:21:53+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Whats with his hair!! |
| 01/09/05 19:21:56+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | Comp Sci at VUw were selling ip connections in 1990 |
| 01/09/05 19:21:57+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | power the internet? like thats a big power drainage compared to other stuff |
| 01/09/05 19:21:58+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | CGI963: great isn't it |
| 01/09/05 19:22:08+-5 | <nil:#debate> | whose hair are you guys commenting on? |
| 01/09/05 19:22:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1, mentioned Slashdot |
| 01/09/05 19:22:10+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Willu: we need lower power routers, obviously |
| 01/09/05 19:22:17+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | No questions in the prepared questions on Peering - might be a good subject for the Wellington audience? Is Andy there?? |
| 01/09/05 19:22:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: Makaybi Diva's |
| 01/09/05 19:22:20+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i read that slashdot artical |
| 01/09/05 19:22:36+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | it was great... new zealands 5sec of fame |
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| 01/09/05 19:22:39+-5 | * nil:#debate | points keith to andy |
| 01/09/05 19:22:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | current scores are: -1 Maurice, 0 Cunliffe, +1 Greenguy |
| 01/09/05 19:22:42+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | maurice had stuff all to do with getting it started and bill gates as well was not helping |
| 01/09/05 19:22:42+-5 | <nil:#debate> | asjl = andy |
| 01/09/05 19:22:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we should give him one for peering too |
| 01/09/05 19:23:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | maurice didn't do that well when he had the job |
| 01/09/05 19:23:11+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | asjl = andy linton |
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| 01/09/05 19:23:16+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | nil: but he invented the internet didnt he? |
| 01/09/05 19:23:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle: Who, Andy Linton? |
| 01/09/05 19:23:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | David and Maurice should leave their personalities at the door |
| 01/09/05 19:23:27+-5 | <NickW:#debate> | nah, gore... |
| 01/09/05 19:23:29+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Plug: maurice ;-) |
| 01/09/05 19:23:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | He invented it in Gore? |
| 01/09/05 19:23:36+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | maurice and Gore. |
| 01/09/05 19:23:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I thought Andy was Scottish! :) |
| 01/09/05 19:23:39+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | He might as well have in NZ anyway! |
| 01/09/05 19:23:41+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | na that was back in 1969 when i was still a callow youth |
| 01/09/05 19:23:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 'the G is for gay' |
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| 01/09/05 19:23:46+-5 | <NickW:#debate> | heh, heh |
| 01/09/05 19:23:48+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | "digger proof network" |
| 01/09/05 19:23:49+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | I thought Gore invented line ancing! |
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| 01/09/05 19:23:52+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | BURY IT TEN MILES DEEP |
| 01/09/05 19:23:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | through the core of the earth |
| 01/09/05 19:23:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: nah |
| 01/09/05 19:24:00+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 19:24:09+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | magma-proof fibre |
| 01/09/05 19:24:10+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Then you get Magma Fades instead |
| 01/09/05 19:24:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | http://bung.homeunix.net/gallery/driveway/Digger_025 |
| 01/09/05 19:24:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | NON DIGGER PROOF NETWORK |
| 01/09/05 19:24:32+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | whats happening? whos saying what and what are they talking about atm? |
| 01/09/05 19:24:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | actually |
| 01/09/05 19:24:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | http://bung.homeunix.net/gallery/driveway/Digger_029 |
| 01/09/05 19:24:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | network stayed up |
| 01/09/05 19:24:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | phones didn't |
| 01/09/05 19:25:00+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | http://www.internetnz.co.nz/forum/questions.htm |
| 01/09/05 19:25:00+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | GIS Map where every piece of optic fibre in this country lies |
| 01/09/05 19:25:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | fascinating project |
| 01/09/05 19:25:05+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | broadband challenge in the digital strategy.. witha GIS map of every fibre |
| 01/09/05 19:25:06+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we're up to 3 I think |
| 01/09/05 19:25:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Dad will hate htat |
| 01/09/05 19:25:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BOO |
| 01/09/05 19:25:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | stuttering |
| 01/09/05 19:25:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | drink |
| 01/09/05 19:25:22+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | i thought they had a GIS already |
| 01/09/05 19:25:35+-5 | <moot:#debate> | Bryin: many of us already have GIS'ed the whole network |
| 01/09/05 19:25:35+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Sounds good, or is it just election speel? |
| 01/09/05 19:25:36+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Kyle: that was for routers .... (or an attempty) |
| 01/09/05 19:25:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | that's a moot point |
| 01/09/05 19:25:48+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hrm |
| 01/09/05 19:25:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | World of Warcraft just ate our stream |
| 01/09/05 19:25:52+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | there is a map of fiber in NZ |
| 01/09/05 19:25:54+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | wahay PDT |
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| 01/09/05 19:25:58+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | somewhere on the linz site |
| 01/09/05 19:26:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 19:26:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | we need more rodents |
| 01/09/05 19:26:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | did you guys go to those pictures? |
| 01/09/05 19:26:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | it might have eaten our stuf f:) |
| 01/09/05 19:26:36+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | Paul, I hope yiu don't suggest telecom run it! |
| 01/09/05 19:26:37+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | different tech though, cable != adsl? |
| 01/09/05 19:26:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ROAR |
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| 01/09/05 19:26:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | +1 plug |
| 01/09/05 19:26:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I AM TEH WINNER |
| 01/09/05 19:26:48+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | bring on peer 2 peer power ;D |
| 01/09/05 19:26:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | partly valid |
| 01/09/05 19:26:52+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | ok guys Paul just asked a q from this channel a fe wminutes ago - why 2 telecomms lines when 1 power line |
| 01/09/05 19:26:53+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Hah |
| 01/09/05 19:26:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 19:26:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | wireless electricity |
| 01/09/05 19:27:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | radiation |
| 01/09/05 19:27:09+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Wireless internet is not the same as wired! |
| 01/09/05 19:27:11+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | to wireless, or not to wireless... |
| 01/09/05 19:27:22+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | If it were that simple, there'd be no reason to have ADSL or Cable at all |
| 01/09/05 19:27:27+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | DC has been well briefed go INZ!! |
| 01/09/05 19:27:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he is optimistic about the future |
| 01/09/05 19:27:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Cunliffe reckons my point is valid |
| 01/09/05 19:27:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 Cunliffe |
| 01/09/05 19:27:37+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | People build there own local power networks... |
| 01/09/05 19:27:37+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | wireless doesn't have the same capacity as wired :-( |
| 01/09/05 19:27:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so we're at -1, 1, 1 now I think |
| 01/09/05 19:27:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | someone keep track for me |
| 01/09/05 19:27:50+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | wow |
| 01/09/05 19:27:51+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Plug: you forgot the -1 maurice as you know he will score a - |
| 01/09/05 19:27:53+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | halochch: Telstra only wires cable because they can't use the existing local loop, AFAIK. |
| 01/09/05 19:27:56+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | unbundled local loop in oz delivers much better domestic bandwidth than here. |
| 01/09/05 19:28:00+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he got -1 for saying 'going forward' |
| 01/09/05 19:28:00+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | if they put up a streaming recording after this, that will suck! why can't they just let us download a avi ? |
| 01/09/05 19:28:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: you should map the scores as a vector map |
| 01/09/05 19:28:06+-5 | <stuartyea:#debate> | For those of you like myself who are currently overseas, be aware that voting has already started. the url for the postal forms is: http://www.elections.org.nz/news/CEOmedia_overseas_starts310805.html |
| 01/09/05 19:28:07+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | over time |
| 01/09/05 19:28:13+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | how do you ask a question? |
| 01/09/05 19:28:20+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | u just did! |
| 01/09/05 19:28:21+-5 | <JC:#debate> | You just did :P |
| 01/09/05 19:28:22+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | arachnid: ah, but the layer 1 is fibre for the backbone (or is that not necessary)? |
| 01/09/05 19:28:23+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Ginji: by waiting til 8pm |
| 01/09/05 19:28:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Ginji: http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 19:28:25+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 19:28:35+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | halochch: Huh? |
| 01/09/05 19:28:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I am +1 for asking a question and pdt is -1 for not saying hello to WLUG. >:) |
| 01/09/05 19:28:55+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | arachnid: isn't it not over the phoneline though? |
| 01/09/05 19:29:10+-5 | <JC:#debate> | The timing of Telecom's announcement re: its new VoIP network is interesting - I wonder if that's intentional. |
| 01/09/05 19:29:11+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | is there a worm plugin for irc? |
| 01/09/05 19:29:26+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | halochch: sure, but if they had access to the local loop, they wouldn't have laid cable |
| 01/09/05 19:29:26+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | and you're sayting that is their only option to deliver the service eh? |
| 01/09/05 19:29:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | *snap* |
| 01/09/05 19:29:39+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | asjl, hrm, have to write one by the election |
| 01/09/05 19:29:39+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | They just picked the best technology given that they had to lay their own anyway |
| 01/09/05 19:29:43+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | asjl: ---------------------- |
| 01/09/05 19:29:47+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | arachnid: gotcha |
| 01/09/05 19:30:11+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | natioanl does not support unbundling |
| 01/09/05 19:30:19+-5 | * Willu:#debate | blows up national |
| 01/09/05 19:30:24+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | OECD wants control! no big bro thanks |
| 01/09/05 19:30:27+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | .,-'` |
| 01/09/05 19:30:28+-5 | <moot:#debate> | the cable network was initially laid as a TV service, with no phone service, and before ADSL existed |
| 01/09/05 19:30:31+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Isn't NZ nearly the only country on eath that isn't unbundling? |
| 01/09/05 19:30:35+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | looocal loop unbundling |
| 01/09/05 19:30:42+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Q. What do you think of the Commerce Commission's abrupt about face between their preliminary and final report? |
| 01/09/05 19:30:46+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | YES |
| 01/09/05 19:30:58+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | arachnid: put it on the web pae |
| 01/09/05 19:31:01+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I will |
| 01/09/05 19:31:01+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | "broadband" |
| 01/09/05 19:31:02+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | Paul seems to be looking there |
| 01/09/05 19:31:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | that quote is written by telecom's consultants for the OECD tho! |
| 01/09/05 19:31:07+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Mexico isn't from memory, but we hardly look to mexico for inspiration ... |
| 01/09/05 19:31:24+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Well that's typical!! |
| 01/09/05 19:31:35+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | +1 Cunliffe for saying 'penetration' |
| 01/09/05 19:31:40+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Ooh look at my bitstream latency! |
| 01/09/05 19:32:01+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 9why are we into user questions already when its not 8pm yet? |
| 01/09/05 19:32:02+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | unbundling the local loop will not change the behaviour intrinsic to Telcom The Corporation... |
| 01/09/05 19:32:05+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | so why do it? |
| 01/09/05 19:32:11+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | Willu: we are preparing them to remember |
| 01/09/05 19:32:11+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Willu: the other ones are just too boring. ;-) |
| 01/09/05 19:32:20+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 9lol |
| 01/09/05 19:32:24+-5 | <JC:#debate> | and my qual-i-ty vo-ice-**er-i-p str-eam-ing |
| 01/09/05 19:32:25+-5 | <wPlug:#debate> | can you kill the green please |
| 01/09/05 19:32:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Willu: the other ones blow |
| 01/09/05 19:32:37+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | wPlug that you Pete? |
| 01/09/05 19:32:38+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | /mode +c |
| 01/09/05 19:32:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | CGI963: no. Who's Pete? |
| 01/09/05 19:32:45+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Isomer: grr :P |
| 01/09/05 19:32:54+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 8how many people here are using black background ? |
| 01/09/05 19:33:01+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | turn on colour stripping in your client if you don't like it |
| 01/09/05 19:33:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Willu: Bye |
| 01/09/05 19:33:02+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | not u obviously - yellow unreadable |
| 01/09/05 19:33:04+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Yellow is not too good... |
| 01/09/05 19:33:06+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Isomer: yea :) |
| 01/09/05 19:33:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Isomer: netiquette |
| 01/09/05 19:33:11+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Willu: Not me |
| 01/09/05 19:33:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dont make me come over ther |
| 01/09/05 19:33:16+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | /kill Willu |
| 01/09/05 19:33:20+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | wimax |
| 01/09/05 19:33:23+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | try I'm miles away! |
| 01/09/05 19:33:23+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 802.11b |
| 01/09/05 19:33:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | wow |
| 01/09/05 19:33:27+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | nnnnnn |
| 01/09/05 19:33:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | b? |
| 01/09/05 19:33:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | BULLSHIT BINGO!!!! |
| 01/09/05 19:33:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: I'm making Greig bring me my drinks |
| 01/09/05 19:33:41+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | mines a speights ta |
| 01/09/05 19:33:42+-5 | <moot:#debate> | gah, colour. 7-bit ascii forever! |
| 01/09/05 19:33:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | good ol' greiggles |
| 01/09/05 19:33:53+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I am going for a Carlsberg |
| 01/09/05 19:33:54+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | bbs |
| 01/09/05 19:33:56+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | the background noise is a bit awful |
| 01/09/05 19:33:56+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | our view at citylink is that you need 10Mb/s to call it broadband |
| 01/09/05 19:34:04+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | asjl: both ways? |
| 01/09/05 19:34:09+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | ask tehm to define broadband |
| 01/09/05 19:34:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | asjl: not 10GigE? |
| 01/09/05 19:34:11+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | xyzzy: hehe, :) |
| 01/09/05 19:34:11+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Yes, cutting audio from mikes that aren't in use would be a big improvement. |
| 01/09/05 19:34:14+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | asjl: that is soon |
| 01/09/05 19:34:24+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | well coming thru loud and clear in Murch yippee thanks INZ! |
| 01/09/05 19:34:24+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Why do we have soooo much technology using only what 50mhz of bandwidth? Why is so much of our frequency spectrum used for ancient analogue links, many of which are no longer used. |
| 01/09/05 19:34:30+-5 | <nil:#debate> | I don't see a question on peering or training in ICT either |
| 01/09/05 19:34:37+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | nil: add it |
| 01/09/05 19:34:43+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Is that you Gale? |
| 01/09/05 19:34:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Is it fair to give -1 to Maurice for saying there is such a thing as a market failure |
| 01/09/05 19:34:49+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | peering would be good |
| 01/09/05 19:35:01+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Who me.... nah its the wicked witch of the west coast! |
| 01/09/05 19:35:07+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | HA HA |
| 01/09/05 19:35:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to Cunliffe for 128k |
| 01/09/05 19:35:14+-5 | <JC:#debate> | http://www.digitalstrategy.govt.nz/ |
| 01/09/05 19:35:14+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Thats not peering through keyholes DPF ! |
| 01/09/05 19:35:15+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | p2p.. who needs more content |
| 01/09/05 19:35:25+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | -1 Cameraman for using screen wipes |
| 01/09/05 19:35:26+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | what speaker is this ? |
| 01/09/05 19:35:37+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | what party i mean, labour ? |
| 01/09/05 19:35:38+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | you can't get more than 128k up when the comcom specify 128 up for ubs. |
| 01/09/05 19:35:38+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | how will they develop software industry in nz or will we keep buying microsoft |
| 01/09/05 19:35:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Cunlipps |
| 01/09/05 19:35:43+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | yep |
| 01/09/05 19:35:46+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | ask about open source |
| 01/09/05 19:35:50+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | because the comcom is evil |
| 01/09/05 19:35:50+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yay for labour |
| 01/09/05 19:35:52+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | I think telco act specifies it? |
| 01/09/05 19:36:00+-5 | <nil:#debate> | asjl: can you add a question on peering pl |
| 01/09/05 19:36:02+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | He's our boy |
| 01/09/05 19:36:07+-5 | <nil:#debate> | best coming for asjl 8) |
| 01/09/05 19:36:11+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | indeed |
| 01/09/05 19:36:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | org.biz! |
| 01/09/05 19:36:20+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hmm training in ICT |
| 01/09/05 19:36:24+-5 | <nil:#debate> | need to come up with a question on that |
| 01/09/05 19:36:25+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we could spend far less if we didnt buy from MS |
| 01/09/05 19:36:28+-5 | <nil:#debate> | stuart yeates |
| 01/09/05 19:36:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | open source government please |
| 01/09/05 19:36:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: what of him? |
| 01/09/05 19:36:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | erm |
| 01/09/05 19:36:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | all govt spending on ICT to be public goods |
| 01/09/05 19:36:46+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Our government should switch to open source -_- |
| 01/09/05 19:36:56+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Plug: but then who gets CVS commit access to the election results? |
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| 01/09/05 19:37:03+-5 | <nil:#debate> | just remarking on the guy who just leaft and observing that this server is only 9 char long nicknames 8) |
| 01/09/05 19:37:10+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Remember everyone online to cast your votes on the politicians answers to the questions for session 1 - vote at vote.internetnz.net.nz |
| 01/09/05 19:37:13+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | ooOOOoo handbags at 7:37 |
| 01/09/05 19:37:16+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | or we could all use pirated microsoft products, and then years later get microsoft to sell us liceneses for $1 each |
| 01/09/05 19:37:24+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | what's your view on peering exchanges in local centres around NZ? |
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| 01/09/05 19:37:44+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ok added to the list for andy |
| 01/09/05 19:37:49+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | who really cares about free local calls? |
| 01/09/05 19:37:54+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | is the behaviour of the tow large telcos Telecom and Telstra anti competitive |
| 01/09/05 19:37:55+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Everyone should be peering |
| 01/09/05 19:37:56+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | ! |
| 01/09/05 19:37:58+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Your chance to rate your feelings to each of the fixed questions being asked - |
| 01/09/05 19:38:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | asjl: http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
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| 01/09/05 19:38:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | if we swithc to VOIP, then ALL calls should be near free |
| 01/09/05 19:38:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: I am keeping a score on the participants |
| 01/09/05 19:38:26+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | or just use hotornot.com to rate them :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:38:29+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, uh |
| 01/09/05 19:38:33+-5 | <JC:#debate> | willu: exactly - its just data |
| 01/09/05 19:38:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Cunliffe is winning at the moment |
| 01/09/05 19:38:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to Maurice for free local calling |
| 01/09/05 19:38:50+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Willu: No one makes money off free |
| 01/09/05 19:38:51+-5 | <JC:#debate> | mind you, its higher priority, higher QoS data |
| 01/09/05 19:38:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | brings him back to zero |
| 01/09/05 19:38:54+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Cunliffe best responses so far |
| 01/09/05 19:38:54+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | people still use landline phones.. i only have mine to get my adsl ;-) |
| 01/09/05 19:38:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | ip or atm, it's all data |
| 01/09/05 19:39:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we have bets here on Maurice punching Cunliffe soon |
| 01/09/05 19:39:08+-5 | <moot:#debate> | speaking of peering .. why is this stream working for me through telstraclear? ;) |
| 01/09/05 19:39:12+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i don't have a landline, haven't had one for 15 years |
| 01/09/05 19:39:14+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | the green guy is poorly spoken |
| 01/09/05 19:39:14+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | i couldn't care less about free local calling, I rarely make phone calls |
| 01/09/05 19:39:19+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | but well informed |
| 01/09/05 19:39:27+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | But the vote is to judge on ***each*** question - during the break at 8pm please vote |
| 01/09/05 19:39:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Ginji: bet your mum does |
| 01/09/05 19:39:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | well at least green fielded someone. |
| 01/09/05 19:39:34+-5 | <JC:#debate> | he's probably just a bit younger and less experienced than the others |
| 01/09/05 19:39:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Keith/dpf: am I right tha tall parties were invited? |
| 01/09/05 19:39:41+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | if the ubs system wasn't crippled by telecom we could start thinking about local VOIP calls |
| 01/09/05 19:39:43+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | my mum doesnt either Plug |
| 01/09/05 19:39:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Ginji: we all know about your mum |
| 01/09/05 19:39:51+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | nil - all the parties were invitied |
| 01/09/05 19:39:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I was going to say 'nan' but I'm not sure that you have a nan |
| 01/09/05 19:39:55+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | asjl, indeed |
| 01/09/05 19:40:04+-5 | <JC:#debate> | absolutely |
| 01/09/05 19:40:06+-5 | <JC:#debate> | its hopeless |
| 01/09/05 19:40:12+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | i thought this channel was well behaved |
| 01/09/05 19:40:12+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | VOIP over TCL cable is alright for me :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:40:19+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | that relies on local Internet exchanges being in place and used |
| 01/09/05 19:40:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hmmm |
| 01/09/05 19:40:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | did Maurice lie? |
| 01/09/05 19:40:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | grannies in pensioner flats |
| 01/09/05 19:40:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | A point off if he did |
| 01/09/05 19:40:43+-5 | <CGI941:#debate> | better ask Roger Kerr |
| 01/09/05 19:40:45+-5 | <nil:#debate> | thanks |
| 01/09/05 19:40:48+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ask Kerr |
| 01/09/05 19:40:55+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | plug - his policy was in direct competition to his parties |
| 01/09/05 19:40:55+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | oh he's goood, local calling v important not all of us live infront of comp screen! |
| 01/09/05 19:41:01+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ALL CALLS should be free... PAY for the Internet connection :{ Telecom already said they're switching everyone over to VOIP |
| 01/09/05 19:41:10+-5 | <nil:#debate> | We need micro trenching and local grids! |
| 01/09/05 19:41:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so. I want a National/ACT government with Cunliffe as ICT minister |
| 01/09/05 19:41:26+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | nil: i wouldnt call your mum micro ;-) |
| 01/09/05 19:41:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: I can't happen |
| 01/09/05 19:41:27+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Internet should be low charge available to all |
| 01/09/05 19:41:27+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Willu: there are slight problems with overseas telcos which charge for calls into their networks |
| 01/09/05 19:41:29+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | We need more people actually building networks! |
| 01/09/05 19:41:35+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | It can't happen Plug |
| 01/09/05 19:41:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: strange that |
| 01/09/05 19:41:41+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | Voip over telecoms ubs n have rtt of 300ms and up to 5 percent packet loss |
| 01/09/05 19:41:41+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | i would much rather see a labour/green government |
| 01/09/05 19:41:43+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | oh ye of little faith |
| 01/09/05 19:41:48+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | xyzzy> fine, then all national calls |
| 01/09/05 19:41:49+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | unless we rip out his socialist tendencies |
| 01/09/05 19:41:53+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Problem is we have ministers bending over backwards to please Telecom |
| 01/09/05 19:42:04+-5 | <nil:#debate> | I don't have any problemswith telecom. they are only doing what any company would do |
| 01/09/05 19:42:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Make them buy Telecom back at sale value :) |
| 01/09/05 19:42:13+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | thats the spirit |
| 01/09/05 19:42:15+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ie exact as much profit as they can get away with for their shareholders |
| 01/09/05 19:42:16+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 9 years vs 9 months |
| 01/09/05 19:42:17+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 19:42:18+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | probe region 15? |
| 01/09/05 19:42:19+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Plug: ill put a $1 on that punch happening |
| 01/09/05 19:42:21+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | good move Williamson |
| 01/09/05 19:42:25+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | question #10 on the wiki needs fleshing out |
| 01/09/05 19:42:27+-5 | <CGI941:#debate> | exactly, Nil. Should have Parke on the show |
| 01/09/05 19:42:36+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | oh he just wants to sell it pay for the tax cuts |
| 01/09/05 19:42:38+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | READ MY LIPS |
| 01/09/05 19:42:45+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | sure that's why you nedd to have some regulation |
| 01/09/05 19:42:47+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | what |
| 01/09/05 19:42:47+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | How do you ask a question again ? |
| 01/09/05 19:42:48+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | can't sorry are they nice? |
| 01/09/05 19:42:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Who was ICT minister before Cunlipps? |
| 01/09/05 19:42:52+-5 | <nil:#debate> | just look. they only do stuff JUST BEFORE they are about to be hauled up and spanked |
| 01/09/05 19:42:52+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Willu: topic .. |
| 01/09/05 19:42:53+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | When National is government :) |
| 01/09/05 19:42:55+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | swain |
| 01/09/05 19:42:57+-5 | <moot:#debate> | 9 years maurice and you didn't do jack.. |
| 01/09/05 19:43:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: thanks |
| 01/09/05 19:43:03+-5 | <nil:#debate> | maurice was useless |
| 01/09/05 19:43:06+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | in ye wee dreams |
| 01/09/05 19:43:17+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | !topic |
| 01/09/05 19:43:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to Maurice for certainty |
| 01/09/05 19:43:20+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hehe |
| 01/09/05 19:43:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | http://www.beehive.govt.nz/Minister.aspx?MinisterID=35 |
| 01/09/05 19:43:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | brings him back to zero |
| 01/09/05 19:43:35+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | what's your parties view on having government departments participate in perering exchangee or require their isps to do so? |
| 01/09/05 19:43:42+-5 | <JC:#debate> | The existing government doesn't seem to be too crash hot either ... |
| 01/09/05 19:43:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Is the lovely lady from NBR on this IRC channel atm? ;) |
| 01/09/05 19:44:02+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | you try make telecom do anything - less your a shareholder |
| 01/09/05 19:44:12+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | To paraphrase an old saying "Vote Telecom and cut out the middlemen" :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:44:17+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | careful NBR woman.. plug will hump your leg |
| 01/09/05 19:44:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | CGI963: its not hard being a shareholder |
| 01/09/05 19:44:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | dpf, heh |
| 01/09/05 19:44:23+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | bugger that |
| 01/09/05 19:44:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Paul Swain is still Associate Minister of Communications and Associate Minister for Information Technology |
| 01/09/05 19:44:24+-5 | <moot:#debate> | i have that copy of Telecommunications Review in front of me |
| 01/09/05 19:44:25+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | No |
| 01/09/05 19:44:27+-5 | <nil:#debate> | how long before we find a telecom political party? |
| 01/09/05 19:44:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle: calm it down. you should be here. |
| 01/09/05 19:44:32+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | not on student allowance it isn't |
| 01/09/05 19:44:38+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | ill be there on the break |
| 01/09/05 19:44:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig relies on you |
| 01/09/05 19:44:41+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Yes NZ Made option |
| 01/09/05 19:44:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | it takes 9 mins from greigs to here |
| 01/09/05 19:44:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so factor that in |
| 01/09/05 19:44:48+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | No Kate from NBE is not in here |
| 01/09/05 19:45:01+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | Plug: company car.. so i reckon 5 or 6 |
| 01/09/05 19:45:03+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | but I can sell you her email address :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:45:14+-5 | <BellaINZ:#debate> | Keith! |
| 01/09/05 19:45:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: I wouldn't. Did you hear about poor Telstra solitaire girl at NZNOG? :) |
| 01/09/05 19:45:18+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 19:45:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | auction it off on trademe like act fundraising! |
| 01/09/05 19:45:21+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | oh isn't national telecom's party? |
| 01/09/05 19:45:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahahahaha |
| 01/09/05 19:45:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | bye bye police |
| 01/09/05 19:45:34+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | a few other projects too |
| 01/09/05 19:45:43+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Plug: lol |
| 01/09/05 19:45:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> Kyle: hurry up |
| 01/09/05 19:46:08+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | no poor thing would've bought her a beer! |
| 01/09/05 19:46:09+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | greig: you ready to go home already or something? |
| 01/09/05 19:46:13+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | they are mocking him!!!! |
| 01/09/05 19:46:15+-5 | <JC:#debate> | where does that come into it? |
| 01/09/05 19:46:19+-5 | <JC:#debate> | buying nz made? |
| 01/09/05 19:46:23+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | mock the green member |
| 01/09/05 19:46:26+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | no no national works for George Bush not Telecom :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:46:29+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | beats buying chinese |
| 01/09/05 19:46:37+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | No PLug??? |
| 01/09/05 19:46:37+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 19:46:47+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | an honest admission at last ;) (Jordan) |
| 01/09/05 19:46:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 19:46:47+-5 | <nil:#debate> | JC: sort of like buying Allied Teltsyn vs buying cisco/juniper etc |
| 01/09/05 19:46:59+-5 | <JC:#debate> | true, I neglected AT |
| 01/09/05 19:47:03+-5 | <nil:#debate> | not sure if AT have anything that does what Junipers do |
| 01/09/05 19:47:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | what about OSS? |
| 01/09/05 19:47:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: Probably best you don't ask. :) |
| 01/09/05 19:47:07+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | where's my speights then? |
| 01/09/05 19:47:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | OSS is nearly NZ made |
| 01/09/05 19:47:13+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | kinda |
| 01/09/05 19:47:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I bought AT over Cisco once |
| 01/09/05 19:47:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I just poured Greig a guiness |
| 01/09/05 19:47:25+-5 | <JC:#debate> | just once? |
| 01/09/05 19:47:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | *once* |
| 01/09/05 19:47:28+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yah |
| 01/09/05 19:47:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | we need talkiet in here to talk abotu AT gear 8) |
| 01/09/05 19:47:32+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | hope you put a shamrock on it |
| 01/09/05 19:47:37+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | OSS, like NZ made, means you don't send lots of money off overseas |
| 01/09/05 19:47:39+-5 | <moot:#debate> | "For nine years I was Minister and the hardest thing I've done in a portfolio was do almost nothing." - Maurice Williamson speaking to Telecommunications Review, 20th June |
| 01/09/05 19:47:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Question #10 still needs to be fleshed out |
| 01/09/05 19:47:45+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | oss is made coperatively by new zelanders and others around the world |
| 01/09/05 19:47:45+-5 | * Willu:#debate | rewords question 9 |
| 01/09/05 19:47:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | moot: put on web page pls :) |
| 01/09/05 19:47:57+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | someone else check it ? |
| 01/09/05 19:48:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | asjl, exactly |
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| 01/09/05 19:48:06+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | well that's typical, do we want more of the same, sorry DPF |
| 01/09/05 19:48:07+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | and it can be sorted by NZers |
| 01/09/05 19:48:12+-5 | <moot:#debate> | Plug: it wasn't a question ;) |
| 01/09/05 19:48:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | willu: that isn't what I asked |
| 01/09/05 19:48:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | moot: its a quote |
| 01/09/05 19:48:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | NZers can't fix bugs in MS products for instance. |
| 01/09/05 19:48:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | what I asked was "NZ are spending money on software development" |
| 01/09/05 19:48:28+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | SAURF |
| 01/09/05 19:48:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | SURF |
| 01/09/05 19:48:31+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i resent being called a surfer |
| 01/09/05 19:48:32+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahaha |
| 01/09/05 19:48:34+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | eeew, we're serfers |
| 01/09/05 19:48:34+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I am a SURFER |
| 01/09/05 19:48:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "as a taxpayer I should have rights on that: |
| 01/09/05 19:48:37+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | surfers??? we're not at the bloody beach |
| 01/09/05 19:48:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | etc |
| 01/09/05 19:48:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | diff question to "use OSS please" |
| 01/09/05 19:48:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Williamson is so hip |
| 01/09/05 19:48:56+-5 | <JC:#debate> | We don't surf in nz |
| 01/09/05 19:48:57+-5 | <CGI941:#debate> | Maurice, Dude. |
| 01/09/05 19:48:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he is with it |
| 01/09/05 19:48:59+-5 | <JC:#debate> | not with this latency |
| 01/09/05 19:49:02+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Plug> shift my question to q11 or something then |
| 01/09/05 19:49:09+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Willu: do it yourself |
| 01/09/05 19:49:10+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | bolger asked what is this Internet thingie |
| 01/09/05 19:49:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you go :) |
| 01/09/05 19:49:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | WOW |
| 01/09/05 19:49:17+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he had dinner with Gates |
| 01/09/05 19:49:20+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | i wonder who paid for that dinner |
| 01/09/05 19:49:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | incis fucked software spending in NZ. |
| 01/09/05 19:49:21+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | name drop |
| 01/09/05 19:49:21+-5 | <CGI941:#debate> | Farrar I can see your face from here |
| 01/09/05 19:49:21+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | HAH |
| 01/09/05 19:49:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | CGI??? people: please change your nick |
| 01/09/05 19:49:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | there are two o fyou that look too similar :) |
| 01/09/05 19:49:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug: they are newbies |
| 01/09/05 19:49:40+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | /nick <new_nick_here> |
| 01/09/05 19:49:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | simple as that |
| 01/09/05 19:49:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | damn |
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| 01/09/05 19:49:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm about 60sec behind |
| 01/09/05 19:49:52+-5 | <nil:#debate> | it is a sneep! |
| 01/09/05 19:49:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 for mentioning billg |
| 01/09/05 19:49:54+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | teh sneepie |
| 01/09/05 19:49:55+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | you're always behind, Plug. |
| 01/09/05 19:49:56+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | there it goes |
| 01/09/05 19:49:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | OSS q |
| 01/09/05 19:50:01+-5 | <nil:#debate> | sneep: questions http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 19:50:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: calm, i'm keeping score |
| 01/09/05 19:50:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahah |
| 01/09/05 19:50:09+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | openoffice! |
| 01/09/05 19:50:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | same answer with OSS as Hardware |
| 01/09/05 19:50:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | maurice -1: cunlipps 3: makybe 1: PDT 1: me, 1 |
| 01/09/05 19:50:21+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Line items in Excel spreadsheet |
| 01/09/05 19:50:22+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ahahahaha |
| 01/09/05 19:50:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm impressed I'm beating maurice atm :) |
| 01/09/05 19:50:30+-5 | <moot:#debate> | judging from Plug's comments on the stream, i must be about 75sec behind |
| 01/09/05 19:50:30+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 4 |
| 01/09/05 19:50:31+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Maurice, you should AT LEAST know the names |
| 01/09/05 19:50:34+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | he <3s microsoft |
| 01/09/05 19:50:43+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Plug - good news - remember to score your feelings to the politicians responses at vote.internetnz.net.nz |
| 01/09/05 19:50:44+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Just words does it really know what he's on about???? |
| 01/09/05 19:50:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he has the URL |
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| 01/09/05 19:50:49+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | openoffice.org |
| 01/09/05 19:50:50+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 4 agrees with the speaker |
| 01/09/05 19:50:51+-5 | <nil:#debate> | err is this talk being streamed on some screen? |
| 01/09/05 19:50:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | well done |
| 01/09/05 19:50:56+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | maurice +1 |
| 01/09/05 19:50:57+-5 | * meanphil:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 19:50:58+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Gnumeric |
| 01/09/05 19:51:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: noted |
| 01/09/05 19:51:03+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | openoffice.org t3g open source gnu linux TCO |
| 01/09/05 19:51:04+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Love that implicitly dismissive way of referring to OOo |
| 01/09/05 19:51:06+-5 | <JC:#debate> | but I would agree |
| 01/09/05 19:51:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | brings him back to zero! |
| 01/09/05 19:51:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he loses points as often has he gains them |
| 01/09/05 19:51:13+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | openoffice.org or whatever! |
| 01/09/05 19:51:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: you're a little faster than me |
| 01/09/05 19:51:28+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | how many departments actually do the costing for OSS? |
| 01/09/05 19:51:29+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Think how much they'd save not being held ransom to some company like microsoft, lotus, etc |
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| 01/09/05 19:51:38+-5 | <moot:#debate> | "I have a view that the greatest distortion in telecommunications is the Kiwi Share. [..] we've already announced as our policy we'll completely review the requirements" - MW |
| 01/09/05 19:51:40+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | LOL |
| 01/09/05 19:51:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> +1 for having a rational view |
| 01/09/05 19:51:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | www.govt.nz |
| 01/09/05 19:51:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | bryin just made that point |
| 01/09/05 19:51:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> bryin can smoke my pole |
| 01/09/05 19:51:49+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | "i don't have any shares in these companies" |
| 01/09/05 19:51:57+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Portal, has someone given him training? |
| 01/09/05 19:52:03+-5 | <JC:#debate> | is that a green party policy? |
| 01/09/05 19:52:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | GOV-IT |
| 01/09/05 19:52:14+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Plug, I'm having major buffering issues though. Streaming off the US sucks. |
| 01/09/05 19:52:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 ? |
| 01/09/05 19:52:15+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Total cost of ownership" |
| 01/09/05 19:52:15+-5 | <JC:#debate> | or just a "company line" |
| 01/09/05 19:52:19+-5 | * Bryin:#debate | smokes greig's pole |
| 01/09/05 19:52:20+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | oh sorry |
| 01/09/05 19:52:25+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | What about free as in freedom, not free as in beer? |
| 01/09/05 19:52:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: i'm with maxnet UBS now. they are rather suck ;) |
| 01/09/05 19:52:30+-5 | <nil:#debate> | sneep: why are ou streaming off the US? |
| 01/09/05 19:52:31+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Everyone's addressing cost solely. |
| 01/09/05 19:52:32+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | doesn't have shares in open source? |
| 01/09/05 19:52:34+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | ISP problems, sneep? :) |
| 01/09/05 19:52:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | sneep doesn't work there now, plug |
| 01/09/05 19:52:40+-5 | <nil:#debate> | get on with the times |
| 01/09/05 19:52:41+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | jonny: yeah |
| 01/09/05 19:52:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> bryin: oh year |
| 01/09/05 19:52:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: I know |
| 01/09/05 19:52:45+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs jonny |
| 01/09/05 19:52:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thats why i'm pointing it out |
| 01/09/05 19:52:49+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | jonny, the "corporate sponsor" doesn't peer.. you know that. :) |
| 01/09/05 19:52:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if he did I'd ask him to fix it |
| 01/09/05 19:52:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 19:52:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | i can ransom isomer if required |
| 01/09/05 19:53:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it's called politiking maurice |
| 01/09/05 19:53:11+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | I shoulda stayed at the pub and watched it from Cafenet. |
| 01/09/05 19:53:11+-5 | <nil:#debate> | err what hapened to question 9? |
| 01/09/05 19:53:12+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | They do peer - if you pay for it :-) |
| 01/09/05 19:53:12+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | whats with the green party dude's babylon 5 style haircut |
| 01/09/05 19:53:14+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | blame others so you can climb the ladder |
| 01/09/05 19:53:17+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | or is that a hat on his head |
| 01/09/05 19:53:27+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | new life form |
| 01/09/05 19:53:28+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 12 http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.govt.nz |
| 01/09/05 19:53:42+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Ginji, heh |
| 01/09/05 19:53:43+-5 | <moot:#debate> | so.. who is paying for this stream to get from WIX to TCL? |
| 01/09/05 19:53:49+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Datacom eh? |
| 01/09/05 19:53:50+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | seriously someone has watched too much sci-fi |
| 01/09/05 19:53:54+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | the tax payer ? |
| 01/09/05 19:53:57+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | moot, everyone, two or three times probably |
| 01/09/05 19:54:01+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yah JC - they must be happy :) |
| 01/09/05 19:54:01+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | InternetNZ probably |
| 01/09/05 19:54:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | fixed #9 |
| 01/09/05 19:54:17+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | thanks and sorry |
| 01/09/05 19:54:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but GRRRR at whoever broke it |
| 01/09/05 19:54:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | wlak the talk |
| 01/09/05 19:54:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to using the maori party slogan :) |
| 01/09/05 19:54:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | again... the 3greens1 don't have a specific policy |
| 01/09/05 19:54:42+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 19:54:43+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | telecom's usb does this right now by shaping traffic to break voip |
| 01/09/05 19:54:46+-5 | <JC:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 19:54:49+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | asjl, exactly |
| 01/09/05 19:54:53+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | They are the only minority party there, give them a break :P |
| 01/09/05 19:54:54+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | conspiracy theory! |
| 01/09/05 19:54:57+-5 | <JC:#debate> | asjl, indeed |
| 01/09/05 19:54:59+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | neither does 2 national |
| 01/09/05 19:55:01+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | they don't have to being they have labour mates |
| 01/09/05 19:55:03+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | the telecomminications commissioner has looked at this |
| 01/09/05 19:55:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Mikaere Curtis is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 01/09/05 19:55:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he used 'disruptive' |
| 01/09/05 19:55:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thats a blogger word |
| 01/09/05 19:55:18+-5 | <moot:#debate> | gah! colour! witch! burn him! burn him! witch! |
| 01/09/05 19:55:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | point off |
| 01/09/05 19:55:20+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Ooh software patents == evil |
| 01/09/05 19:55:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | profound mikaere |
| 01/09/05 19:55:33+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | moot> disable it if you don't like it :P |
| 01/09/05 19:55:33+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ooooooooooh |
| 01/09/05 19:55:34+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | skype |
| 01/09/05 19:55:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | interestingly that means I am now in second place behind Cunliffe |
| 01/09/05 19:55:37+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | telecom voip != the spirit of voip! |
| 01/09/05 19:55:40+-5 | <nil:#debate> | wait till they plug in words like blogosphere |
| 01/09/05 19:55:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and PDT is in lsat place |
| 01/09/05 19:56:03+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | pstn is not the curent wave it's old technoology |
| 01/09/05 19:56:05+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | zomg! worldxchange just got plugged. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:07+-5 | <nil:#debate> | jonny: since when has telecom anything = sperit of anything? eg telecom dsl != broadband |
| 01/09/05 19:56:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hey |
| 01/09/05 19:56:09+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I am watching the stream on my laptop via 802.11b |
| 01/09/05 19:56:12+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | hehe Plug - but moderator should not be judged other than from keeping focus on the questions |
| 01/09/05 19:56:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I did nothing of the sort sneep |
| 01/09/05 19:56:13+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it's very cute |
| 01/09/05 19:56:16+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | yeah cause they overcharged everyone to get online in the first place and blocked other ISPs getting ADSL customers |
| 01/09/05 19:56:20+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | liar, plug. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: he was judged on not saying hello to WLUG. :) |
| 01/09/05 19:56:22+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | they're just your sort. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:27+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | Telecom is the Perfect Company... |
| 01/09/05 19:56:29+-5 | <JC:#debate> | jonny: No, that's telecom taking openly available hardware and putting them on their own little network so you still have to pay Telecom prices. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: you never know. bend over baby and ask again |
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| 01/09/05 19:56:33+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i'm listening to this via 9Woosh |
| 01/09/05 19:56:34+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | sorry, I mean't Corporation. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:35+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | jonny, absolutely. they buy lots of beer. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:36+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | latency sucks |
| 01/09/05 19:56:37+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug: -10 mod points for that! |
| 01/09/05 19:56:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | is sneep still at maximum internet? |
| 01/09/05 19:56:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: nah, just -1 :) |
| 01/09/05 19:56:47+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | no |
| 01/09/05 19:56:49+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | i missed the beginning.. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:50+-5 | <CGI502:#debate> | hmm.. no joy with feed :( |
| 01/09/05 19:56:50+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | I haven't been at maxnet since december. |
| 01/09/05 19:56:54+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | what did i miss? |
| 01/09/05 19:56:55+-5 | <nil:#debate> | nryin: NO |
| 01/09/05 19:56:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | where are you now? |
| 01/09/05 19:56:57+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | OOoops major gaff then Plug - I'll kick him in the *nix at half time |
| 01/09/05 19:57:00+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hi BJ |
| 01/09/05 19:57:01+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Perfectly a pain in the arse you tried phoning them lately - please choose from the following 6 options jeez |
| 01/09/05 19:57:02+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | uh.. somewhere. :) |
| 01/09/05 19:57:05+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | g'day nil |
| 01/09/05 19:57:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil assimilates me |
| 01/09/05 19:57:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: good man. :) |
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| 01/09/05 19:57:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if you can get him to say it as "Big ups to WLUG" then you instantly get 10 points |
| 01/09/05 19:57:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | which will put you square in the lead |
| 01/09/05 19:57:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ok I better goet back to work or not beer for me with keith |
| 01/09/05 19:57:40+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: I think at least 50 points |
| 01/09/05 19:57:44+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | they've started |
| 01/09/05 19:57:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 10 points for Waikato |
| 01/09/05 19:57:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> people who use 'unacceptable' fuck me off |
| 01/09/05 19:57:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 for that then |
| 01/09/05 19:57:59+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | is there still going to be a break at 8pm? |
| 01/09/05 19:57:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 5 points for LUG |
| 01/09/05 19:58:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but +1 to greig for fetching me drinks |
| 01/09/05 19:58:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so he's even |
| 01/09/05 19:58:12+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | greig: that is an unacceptable attitude |
| 01/09/05 19:58:13+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Plug - behaviour please |
| 01/09/05 19:58:15+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Yeah and people still get killed even with speeed/spam limits!! |
| 01/09/05 19:58:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | cornholio industries |
| 01/09/05 19:58:26+-5 | <JC:#debate> | No, but somebody puts up "65" signs around corners you can do at 100 without any issues! (and then you come across another which you should do at 45) |
| 01/09/05 19:58:27+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | They don't say "we're going to stop people using VoIP", they just increase the latency until it's not practical. |
| 01/09/05 19:58:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | his is on the board |
| 01/09/05 19:58:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | cornholio industries, teepee for his bunghole |
| 01/09/05 19:58:39+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Maurice still looks like a fuck. I never liked him. |
| 01/09/05 19:58:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: behaivour please. :) |
| 01/09/05 19:58:49+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | JC: theres actually science behind speed reccomendations on roads.. |
| 01/09/05 19:58:50+-5 | <nil:#debate> | upload vs download speeds |
| 01/09/05 19:58:55+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | He acted like a complete ass in Christchurch airport one day, put me completely off him. |
| 01/09/05 19:59:05+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Guys keep it reasonable - remember the politicians are watching this chat session in the room too |
| 01/09/05 19:59:07+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | !!! |
| 01/09/05 19:59:07+-5 | <JC:#debate> | blakjak: There probably is, but it doesn't seem to be consistent |
| 01/09/05 19:59:09+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | bring on the bandwidth police! smack those silly buggers! |
| 01/09/05 19:59:10+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | or like people port shaping so that pee2peetr applications dont work |
| 01/09/05 19:59:12+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 19:59:12+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | sneep: you really need to start hanging out somewhere that isnt an airport |
| 01/09/05 19:59:13+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | "smart alex" |
| 01/09/05 19:59:14+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | oh, my bad. :) |
| 01/09/05 19:59:14+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oooer |
| 01/09/05 19:59:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | i think he was minister for Timaru once upon a time |
| 01/09/05 19:59:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | when I was a cub scout |
| 01/09/05 19:59:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | harsh words maurice |
| 01/09/05 19:59:20+-5 | <JC:#debate> | anyway, bit off topic |
| 01/09/05 19:59:25+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | but telecom publish their specs an people buy it cos they don't know better |
| 01/09/05 19:59:25+-5 | * xyzzy:#debate | wonder what they think about traffic shaping of P2P |
| 01/09/05 19:59:29+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: ok are you saying Maurice williamson did some positive things while he was minister? |
| 01/09/05 19:59:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | xyzzy: shape it |
| 01/09/05 19:59:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to MW for bandwidth purchasing |
| 01/09/05 19:59:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | don't disrupt their email with your illegal file transfers |
| 01/09/05 19:59:49+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | because it didn't make them any money! |
| 01/09/05 19:59:50+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | thank you. |
| 01/09/05 19:59:50+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | he saw off the stupid trevor rogers bill |
| 01/09/05 19:59:57+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: pfft |
| 01/09/05 19:59:59+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | thank god |
| 01/09/05 20:00:07+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | hey DPF/nil |
| 01/09/05 20:00:10+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: that was early days and then he did nothing! |
| 01/09/05 20:00:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to cunliffe for sarcasm :) |
| 01/09/05 20:00:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | is dave2 = david zanetti |
| 01/09/05 20:00:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ? |
| 01/09/05 20:00:13+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hi dave |
| 01/09/05 20:00:14+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | aye |
| 01/09/05 20:00:16+-5 | <nil:#debate> | bryin: yes |
| 01/09/05 20:00:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 0/3/0 now |
| 01/09/05 20:00:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hi dave2 |
| 01/09/05 20:00:19+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I wonder why NZ first isn't there :P |
| 01/09/05 20:00:31+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Nil - not entering the debate on that issue - just appealing for behaviour and language here |
| 01/09/05 20:00:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | bryin: who are you?? |
| 01/09/05 20:00:34+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | what's houses got to do with it... what's his agenda aye |
| 01/09/05 20:00:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil: David Hallett |
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| 01/09/05 20:00:48+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: oh hmmm |
| 01/09/05 20:00:49+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I agree with national atm.. only at the moment |
| 01/09/05 20:00:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | bryin is my business advisor |
| 01/09/05 20:01:02+-5 | <nil:#debate> | yes guys. tone down on the omghi2u stfu stuff pl |
| 01/09/05 20:01:04+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Mmm that's the fundamental problem I think - telecom bought it entirely legitamately (to my knowledge) |
| 01/09/05 20:01:14+-5 | <nil:#debate> | can't shock the politicians |
| 01/09/05 20:01:30+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Oh yeah and what did National do but put the country in such horrendous debt labour had to sell assets to keep us from anilation |
| 01/09/05 20:01:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil I met you first in Palmerston North |
| 01/09/05 20:01:33+-5 | <CGI941:#debate> | god bless Fay Richwhite |
| 01/09/05 20:01:34+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | whos the blonde? |
| 01/09/05 20:01:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | about 10 years ago |
| 01/09/05 20:01:38+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | at some party |
| 01/09/05 20:01:42+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | I recognise Paul... |
| 01/09/05 20:01:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BlakJak: NBR journo |
| 01/09/05 20:01:51+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | ahh |
| 01/09/05 20:01:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kate something iirc? |
| 01/09/05 20:01:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Business Process Patent -5 |
| 01/09/05 20:01:57+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | GTH theyre there also |
| 01/09/05 20:02:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Business Process Patent -5 to David Cunliffe |
| 01/09/05 20:02:10+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Kate McLaughlin (NBR) |
| 01/09/05 20:02:19+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | plug is creating the Kate from NBR fanclub website at this moment |
| 01/09/05 20:02:19+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | And what's the govt doing about the MS XML patent? :) |
| 01/09/05 20:02:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: You're far ahead of me |
| 01/09/05 20:02:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle: calm it down |
| 01/09/05 20:02:25+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | haha Kyle :P |
| 01/09/05 20:02:26+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | a big fat round zero :) |
| 01/09/05 20:02:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: is that worth marks off? |
| 01/09/05 20:02:33+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Oi guys |
| 01/09/05 20:02:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I am very far behind |
| 01/09/05 20:02:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oh yes Plug |
| 01/09/05 20:02:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he does acknowledge patents are bad |
| 01/09/05 20:02:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | +5 for mentioning slashdot |
| 01/09/05 20:02:54+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Plug: some patents, not all patents |
| 01/09/05 20:02:54+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | only Business Process Patent |
| 01/09/05 20:02:56+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | ooo |
| 01/09/05 20:02:57+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:03:00+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | he knows slashdot? |
| 01/09/05 20:03:03+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: already given points to green guy once for that |
| 01/09/05 20:03:04+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | -5 for using the word geek |
| 01/09/05 20:03:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | they need to timecode the stream |
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| 01/09/05 20:03:11+-5 | <yem:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 20:03:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we're very behind on it |
| 01/09/05 20:03:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | will have to reconnect in break |
| 01/09/05 20:03:25+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | i'm obviously a bit behind willu |
| 01/09/05 20:03:26+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | if you're an open source programmer who is giving away their program, how can they afford to challenge a patent? |
| 01/09/05 20:03:34+-5 | <JC:#debate> | -5 for using slashdot as an authorative site |
| 01/09/05 20:03:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> JC: did you die for our sins? :) |
| 01/09/05 20:03:39+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Isomer: Legal Aid |
| 01/09/05 20:03:44+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | That Mikaere reads /.: Good thing, or bad thing? |
| 01/09/05 20:03:49+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | There' |
| 01/09/05 20:03:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | anyone watching the video on dial up speed ? how is it, watchable ? |
| 01/09/05 20:03:55+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | I think its a good thing |
| 01/09/05 20:03:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | arachnid: amoral |
| 01/09/05 20:04:02+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | s some really cool bad US patents, stuff that is carbon copy RFCs :) |
| 01/09/05 20:04:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 for obviousness |
| 01/09/05 20:04:10+-5 | <dub:#debate> | the 56k video is fine on 64k dsl |
| 01/09/05 20:04:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | this is like Slashdot remmber |
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| 01/09/05 20:04:19+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Remember vote at vote.internet.net.nz |
| 01/09/05 20:04:20+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | they are taking a break now |
| 01/09/05 20:04:22+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Please |
| 01/09/05 20:04:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you can only +/- one point at a time |
| 01/09/05 20:04:25+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | evening |
| 01/09/05 20:04:25+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | ALl |
| 01/09/05 20:04:28+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Vote |
| 01/09/05 20:04:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | short break now |
| 01/09/05 20:04:29+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | now |
| 01/09/05 20:04:33+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | then back in 10 minutes |
| 01/09/05 20:04:33+-5 | <yem:#debate> | hey LennonNZ |
| 01/09/05 20:04:34+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | plug - will be there in 10 mins or so.. |
| 01/09/05 20:04:34+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ooooer |
| 01/09/05 20:04:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | vote.internet.net.nz not there |
| 01/09/05 20:04:36+-5 | <JC:#debate> | 384kb is good, hada very issues with 2mbit |
| 01/09/05 20:04:39+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | do i need laptop plug? |
| 01/09/05 20:04:41+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | 'vote.internet.net.nz could not be found...' |
| 01/09/05 20:04:42+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he gets +1 for mentioning IRC |
| 01/09/05 20:04:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle: if you want |
| 01/09/05 20:04:43+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | yea.. 2M is well.. |
| 01/09/05 20:04:44+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | they got an ad break ? :P |
| 01/09/05 20:04:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: which one? |
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| 01/09/05 20:04:46+-5 | <Kyle:#debate> | k.. seeya shortly |
| 01/09/05 20:04:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | turned off the mics |
| 01/09/05 20:04:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm behind remember |
| 01/09/05 20:04:52+-5 | <JC:#debate> | *had a few issues |
| 01/09/05 20:04:54+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | 2M feed wouldn't start for me, alas :( |
| 01/09/05 20:04:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: the moderator |
| 01/09/05 20:04:56+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oh no |
| 01/09/05 20:04:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "Big ups to WLUG" |
| 01/09/05 20:04:57+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | vote.internetnz.net.nz ? |
| 01/09/05 20:04:57+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | but would 64k video work on a 56k link? |
| 01/09/05 20:04:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | remember :) |
| 01/09/05 20:04:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | what crap music |
| 01/09/05 20:05:00+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | what's url to vote please |
| 01/09/05 20:05:02+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | LL |
| 01/09/05 20:05:07+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | sponsors logos |
| 01/09/05 20:05:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 20:05:07+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | feel free to go vote |
| 01/09/05 20:05:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | get them away from me |
| 01/09/05 20:05:13+-5 | <moot:#debate> | In other news, PDT is to take a job with Prime for a new 7pm show.. |
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| 01/09/05 20:05:18+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | about how the first bits went |
| 01/09/05 20:05:18+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | sound is great on 2M |
| 01/09/05 20:05:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | don't brainwash me -- PLEASE! |
| 01/09/05 20:05:23+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | video is laggy as |
| 01/09/05 20:05:23+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ditto LennonNZ |
| 01/09/05 20:05:27+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ |
| 01/09/05 20:05:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 20:05:30+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | whats showing on the video now its break ? |
| 01/09/05 20:05:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | aside from voting |
| 01/09/05 20:05:33+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs lennon |
| 01/09/05 20:05:39+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | willu, banners |
| 01/09/05 20:05:40+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | lots of em |
| 01/09/05 20:05:43+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | that text is unreadable. |
| 01/09/05 20:05:46+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | for the various outfits involved.. |
| 01/09/05 20:05:48+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | *obscured url* |
| 01/09/05 20:05:49+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Nice job, white background with transparent letters... |
| 01/09/05 20:05:50+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | so whats all this then ? |
| 01/09/05 20:05:51+-5 | <Jordan:#debate> | and just for the record, it's credits |
| 01/09/05 20:05:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | the score so far is MW 0: Cunliffe 3: Makybe 1: PDT 0, Plug 1, Greig 1, sneep 10 |
| 01/09/05 20:05:54+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | video back.. cafenet |
| 01/09/05 20:06:01+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | how did I get so far in the lead? |
| 01/09/05 20:06:02+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Bryin: before you ask, LennonNZ = Craig Whitmore |
| 01/09/05 20:06:06+-5 | <nil:#debate> | steve2 = Steven Phillips |
| 01/09/05 20:06:12+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ColinJ: http://vote.internet.net.nz doesn't resolve |
| 01/09/05 20:06:17+-5 | * trogs:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:06:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | grei> why does sneep get 10 points? |
| 01/09/05 20:06:18+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | right, let's see if this 2M feed works :) |
| 01/09/05 20:06:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he just does, ok. |
| 01/09/05 20:06:23+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil: I know who LennonNZ is ;-) |
| 01/09/05 20:06:24+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | nil's doing introductions? :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:06:33+-5 | <nil:#debate> | BlakJak = Mark Foster |
| 01/09/05 20:06:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | pdt is laptopping it up |
| 01/09/05 20:06:43+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 20:06:43+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | me = anonymous |
| 01/09/05 20:06:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | We have reconnected here |
| 01/09/05 20:06:46+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | sneep = telecom nz |
| 01/09/05 20:06:48+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | 386K works alot better |
| 01/09/05 20:06:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we see 'question page' |
| 01/09/05 20:06:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | now |
| 01/09/05 20:06:50+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yay i got the video working |
| 01/09/05 20:06:50+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | sneep = newbie |
| 01/09/05 20:06:51+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | haha steve |
| 01/09/05 20:06:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | are we up to date? |
| 01/09/05 20:06:53+-5 | <nil:#debate> | trogs = keith's former coffeeboy at wisenet |
| 01/09/05 20:06:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | people gone |
| 01/09/05 20:07:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | internetNZ banner |
| 01/09/05 20:07:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I am using 386K |
| 01/09/05 20:07:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | UoA |
| 01/09/05 20:07:08+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I'm disappointed they missed the question on timeshifting |
| 01/09/05 20:07:10+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | link hasn't been put on it ... |
| 01/09/05 20:07:12+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | yeah, the 384k at least worked, but I feed the need to use the 2M version :) |
| 01/09/05 20:07:12+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it seems to buffer much nicer |
| 01/09/05 20:07:13+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | whats the music? |
| 01/09/05 20:07:20+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | music sounds like stoners looping |
| 01/09/05 20:07:20+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | er, format shifting |
| 01/09/05 20:07:22+-5 | * trogs:#debate | waves |
| 01/09/05 20:07:25+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | tuanz |
| 01/09/05 20:07:27+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | arachnid, you have the ability to ask questions after the break |
| 01/09/05 20:07:27+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | hooray, 2M connected properly :) |
| 01/09/05 20:07:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | is it creative commons or loyalty free music? |
| 01/09/05 20:07:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 20:07:32+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Isomer: I know |
| 01/09/05 20:07:33+-5 | * Plug:#debate | votes |
| 01/09/05 20:07:40+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | is that a mouse pointer? |
| 01/09/05 20:07:41+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | i'm on the 384 version, on 2mbit dsl, its adequate.. why go to 2meg.. |
| 01/09/05 20:07:52+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil: sounds like the free love version |
| 01/09/05 20:07:52+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | 384k is jerky on 2mb DSL for me. |
| 01/09/05 20:08:01+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | I need something to burn thru the Citylink connection at home :) |
| 01/09/05 20:08:03+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | my 2M UBS is 1.6M only sue to a telecom "problem" |
| 01/09/05 20:08:06+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | bugger |
| 01/09/05 20:08:06+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | sneep: tcnz? |
| 01/09/05 20:08:10+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | i gotta go up the road.... |
| 01/09/05 20:08:10+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i'm on the 56kb\s, on a 256kb\s connection |
| 01/09/05 20:08:13+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | due |
| 01/09/05 20:08:16+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Yeah. |
| 01/09/05 20:08:19+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | me too |
| 01/09/05 20:08:27+-5 | <yem:#debate> | Willu: the 128k vid looks good on my 256k |
| 01/09/05 20:08:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | fine here though |
| 01/09/05 20:08:31+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i'm not going to waste my bandwidth ;) |
| 01/09/05 20:08:42+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | need that for downloading 'linux isos' |
| 01/09/05 20:08:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | my fast stream is 128k on 2mbs |
| 01/09/05 20:08:45+-5 | <moot:#debate> | 128k looks adequate on my $evilTelcoOfficeLAN |
| 01/09/05 20:08:49+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | whats the Music from? |
| 01/09/05 20:08:51+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Quicksilver $40 a month for mine 320kph speed not bad forthe whop whops cheers to CS for putting me on to them |
| 01/09/05 20:08:51+-5 | <yem:#debate> | *g* |
| 01/09/05 20:08:53+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | all praise unlimited free domestic *hugs citylink* :) |
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| 01/09/05 20:08:58+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | fix0red |
| 01/09/05 20:09:00+-5 | <nil:#debate> | what you need is sneakernet |
| 01/09/05 20:09:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, we have bandwidth for downloading linux iso's. it's uploading linux patches that are the problem |
| 01/09/05 20:09:11+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | High bandwidth, high latency |
| 01/09/05 20:09:12+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:09:14+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil: lorrynet |
| 01/09/05 20:09:15+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i have a 10gb cap |
| 01/09/05 20:09:18+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | jonny, install a cafenet AP near the top of cuba st. |
| 01/09/05 20:09:20+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | LennonNZ, it's citylinks generic "copyright free" musing |
| 01/09/05 20:09:22+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | (or andy) |
| 01/09/05 20:09:23+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | mines 4gb |
| 01/09/05 20:09:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | that's lorrynet not loriernet! |
| 01/09/05 20:09:25+-5 | <nil:#debate> | cgi ppl: to put a nick try /nick <nmane of yoru choice> |
| 01/09/05 20:09:30+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | k sneep... just for you :) |
| 01/09/05 20:09:30+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | and then after that i am limited to dial up speed |
| 01/09/05 20:09:32+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Bryin: haha |
| 01/09/05 20:09:35+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | thanks :) |
| 01/09/05 20:09:45+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | better yet, feel free to put fiber into QBA Apartments if you want :) |
| 01/09/05 20:09:45+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | CGI963: that's you |
| 01/09/05 20:09:49+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | CGI425: and you |
| 01/09/05 20:09:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | there we go keith_inz, some answers for you |
| 01/09/05 20:09:58+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | are we supposed to see video ? |
| 01/09/05 20:09:59+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | CGI151: you too |
| 01/09/05 20:10:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | halochch = TCS? |
| 01/09/05 20:10:03+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Hey does anyone know if there's going to be a transcript of this debate anywhere? |
| 01/09/05 20:10:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | actually with quicksilver you get free local trafic |
| 01/09/05 20:10:07+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | steve2: in break ATM |
| 01/09/05 20:10:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Steve2: should get slides atm |
| 01/09/05 20:10:08+-5 | * Jay:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 20:10:11+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Steve2 yes |
| 01/09/05 20:10:11+-5 | <nil:#debate> | bandwidth cap only applies to international |
| 01/09/05 20:10:16+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | hrm |
| 01/09/05 20:10:16+-5 | * nil:#debate | stops plugging qsi |
| 01/09/05 20:10:19+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | blank screen here |
| 01/09/05 20:10:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: I should think so |
| 01/09/05 20:10:21+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | unlimited national now |
| 01/09/05 20:10:23+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | CG1963 is me... |
| 01/09/05 20:10:23+-5 | * Neil:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:10:24+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Bryin: uh, they are my intials yes |
| 01/09/05 20:10:29+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | beer time... |
| 01/09/05 20:10:35+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | whois NGINZ?? |
| 01/09/05 20:10:39+-5 | * xyzzy:#debate | wonderes if anyone here is at TNC |
| 01/09/05 20:10:45+-5 | <nil:#debate> | next gen internet, lennon |
| 01/09/05 20:10:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Next Generation Internet New Zealand? |
| 01/09/05 20:10:50+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | there's no cafenet at TNC :( |
| 01/09/05 20:10:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nevada > tnc |
| 01/09/05 20:10:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ;-) |
| 01/09/05 20:10:58+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | (not welly TNC anyway) |
| 01/09/05 20:10:58+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | what do they do? |
| 01/09/05 20:10:59+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | yep |
| 01/09/05 20:11:01+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: I know, that's why I'm not there :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:11:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 20:11:07+-5 | * LennonNZ:#debate | goes and looks |
| 01/09/05 20:11:14+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | but someone might have woosh or something... |
| 01/09/05 20:11:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hamilton isn't going to get a TNC |
| 01/09/05 20:11:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | cos nevada is better than it :) |
| 01/09/05 20:11:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | LennonNZ: 12 http://www.ngi-nz.co.nz/ |
| 01/09/05 20:11:32+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug: why not? |
| 01/09/05 20:11:38+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | no you can't you've forgotten to put the link into the line! |
| 01/09/05 20:11:38+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | I *guess* you could try and pull it over some flashly 3G network at the cost of the GDP of a small country per minute :) |
| 01/09/05 20:11:43+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | agh.. group of people who promote the internet.. |
| 01/09/05 20:11:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | who mentioned http://vote.internet.net.nz/?? |
| 01/09/05 20:11:50+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it doesn't resolve |
| 01/09/05 20:11:54+-5 | * Steve2:#debate | is streaming over evdo |
| 01/09/05 20:11:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we've established lots more question |
| 01/09/05 20:11:58+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | but i have no video |
| 01/09/05 20:12:01+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | me.... Gale by name windy by nature |
| 01/09/05 20:12:03+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | which kinda sux |
| 01/09/05 20:12:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | propogate your DNS records, plzkthx |
| 01/09/05 20:12:06+-5 | <moot:#debate> | Bryin: internetnz not internet |
| 01/09/05 20:12:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> I think it would be far better to refacotr wiki questions into two or three that really need to be asked |
| 01/09/05 20:12:12+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Steve2> try another speed feed |
| 01/09/05 20:12:14+-5 | <nil:#debate> | gale as in amyl? |
| 01/09/05 20:12:17+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: or glue a repeater to the seats outside daawat |
| 01/09/05 20:12:20+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ |
| 01/09/05 20:12:24+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Plug: perhaps sort em? |
| 01/09/05 20:12:26+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | who? |
| 01/09/05 20:12:26+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | that'd work for me.. :) |
| 01/09/05 20:12:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: the WLUG survey actually asked if you'd go to a TNC-like event |
| 01/09/05 20:12:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | or vote? |
| 01/09/05 20:12:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | [20:04] (keith_inz): Remember vote at vote.internet.net.nz |
| 01/09/05 20:12:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 19/40 said yes |
| 01/09/05 20:12:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so we might do it |
| 01/09/05 20:12:54+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Is the vote going to be up tomorrow ? i want to listen to the recording before i answer it |
| 01/09/05 20:13:02+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Willu: ditto |
| 01/09/05 20:13:04+-5 | <dub:#debate> | vote.internetnz.net.nz doesnt resolve |
| 01/09/05 20:13:05+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | its http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ not http://vote.internet.net.nz/ |
| 01/09/05 20:13:10+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | sure bryin - might even vote twice |
| 01/09/05 20:13:12+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | http://nationalbillboard.fias.co.nz/makeBillboard.php |
| 01/09/05 20:13:14+-5 | <JC:#debate> | the recording is supposed to be up 2 hours after the debate I think |
| 01/09/05 20:13:19+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Vote on performances at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ stream, http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:13:19+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 20:13:30+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | I first voted at 2 this afternoon, heh, heh... |
| 01/09/05 20:13:40+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 20:13:53+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | oooh, pics |
| 01/09/05 20:13:57+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | irc score MW 0, DC 2, MC 1 : Vote on performances at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ stream, http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate que |
| 01/09/05 20:14:00+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | okay sussed it duh votes done |
| 01/09/05 20:14:03+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | whats Makybe's surname? |
| 01/09/05 20:14:06+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | what question are we up to? |
| 01/09/05 20:14:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | they've finished all the normal questions |
| 01/09/05 20:14:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | no they havent |
| 01/09/05 20:14:24+-5 | * Savag3:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:14:28+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | w00t, streaming over evdo to the tv |
| 01/09/05 20:14:28+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Now, on to the abnormal questions! |
| 01/09/05 20:14:30+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | now their having an intermission before they start on the irc questions |
| 01/09/05 20:14:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Mikaere |
| 01/09/05 20:14:31+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | vote.internetnz.net.nz resolves fine dub |
| 01/09/05 20:14:33+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | this could be expensive |
| 01/09/05 20:14:41+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Mikaere Curtis |
| 01/09/05 20:14:41+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | just a tad :) |
| 01/09/05 20:14:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: maybe you need to help us kickstart our weekly events |
| 01/09/05 20:14:45+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | who made the questions up? |
| 01/09/05 20:14:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: thanks, thought so |
| 01/09/05 20:15:02+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | steve2: I see people are doing EV-DO 802.11 APs now :) |
| 01/09/05 20:15:09+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | irc score MW 0, DC 2, MC 1 : Vote on performances at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate quest |
| 01/09/05 20:15:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahah |
| 01/09/05 20:15:15+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | check that => 12 http://www.greens.org.nz/people/MikaereCurtis.htm |
| 01/09/05 20:15:17+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | irc score MW 0, DC 2, MC 1 : Vote on performances at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate qstns |
| 01/09/05 20:15:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug: talk to me later abotu it |
| 01/09/05 20:15:19+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | internetnz.net.nz, brought to you by the department of redundancy department. |
| 01/09/05 20:15:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | that'll do. |
| 01/09/05 20:15:22+-5 | <moot:#debate> | TNC started with only about 3 people. just start going. the rest will take care of itself. |
| 01/09/05 20:15:24+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | who else is watching/listening to this on MPC ? |
| 01/09/05 20:15:25+-5 | * nil:#debate | is trying to do some work 8) |
| 01/09/05 20:15:28+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | dave2 : that could be.. costly |
| 01/09/05 20:15:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you uys should webcast the convesation we just had. |
| 01/09/05 20:15:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | its great. :) |
| 01/09/05 20:15:42+-5 | <JC:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 20:15:42+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | I'm watching on Zoomplayer.. |
| 01/09/05 20:15:45+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug: you'll get fluctuations. we have had up to 20 and down to about 3 pl |
| 01/09/05 20:15:51+-5 | <nil:#debate> | it depends on a lot of things |
| 01/09/05 20:15:51+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | crap what makes you say that redunancy dept??? |
| 01/09/05 20:16:01+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | i coulda dont the geeky/sharing thing and taken my laptop to TNC in welly and let them all watch it over evdo |
| 01/09/05 20:16:01+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | moot: the VUW Computer Club weekly meetings started like that too :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:16:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | has someone put in a question on ICT training? |
| 01/09/05 20:16:08+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | done too |
| 01/09/05 20:16:11+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | anyone know how many people are viewing the video? |
| 01/09/05 20:16:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Morningside 4 Lyfe! |
| 01/09/05 20:16:17+-5 | <nil:#debate> | not me |
| 01/09/05 20:16:26+-5 | <nil:#debate> | lennon: trying to get work stuff done while talking on irc 8) |
| 01/09/05 20:16:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | OK, honest time. Who is enjoying a few bevvies whilst watching this? |
| 01/09/05 20:16:31+-5 | <moot:#debate> | xyzzy: something i didn't get in 2000 |
| 01/09/05 20:16:38+-5 | * metalL:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:16:41+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Stats will no doubt come out later, will be interesting to see!\ |
| 01/09/05 20:16:41+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | this music is kinda............................. |
| 01/09/05 20:16:44+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Rolling Rock beer... |
| 01/09/05 20:16:47+-5 | <nil:#debate> | not me |
| 01/09/05 20:16:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: we consider it Christian rock |
| 01/09/05 20:16:49+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | "Electronic Voting? Why have we not done this? It seems that there is no good technological or paranoid reason that we do not allow electronic voting?" |
| 01/09/05 20:16:51+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Ok, who wrote that? |
| 01/09/05 20:16:53+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | this is not on TV? |
| 01/09/05 20:16:54+-5 | <nil:#debate> | unless you consider diet coke a bev |
| 01/09/05 20:16:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | arachnid: paper backed only |
| 01/09/05 20:16:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | CGI306, /nick <something> |
| 01/09/05 20:17:01+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Still waiting for me speights! |
| 01/09/05 20:17:03+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | moot: having people turn up due to NZWired helped, too |
| 01/09/05 20:17:04+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Plug> CHristian Rock sounds better :P |
| 01/09/05 20:17:05+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | What about the complete inability to verify identity adequately? |
| 01/09/05 20:17:08+-5 | <metalL:#debate> | I can't connect to the feed for some reason |
| 01/09/05 20:17:13+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | lennon : its on my tv ! |
| 01/09/05 20:17:23+-5 | * halochch:#debate | hands CGI963 a grolsch |
| 01/09/05 20:17:24+-5 | <nil:#debate> | metal: which isp are you with? |
| 01/09/05 20:17:24+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Steve2: me, too! |
| 01/09/05 20:17:25+-5 | <JC:#debate> | it was pretty slow to connect to |
| 01/09/05 20:17:29+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | If I could be bothered hacking a bit, I guess I could put it on mine :P) |
| 01/09/05 20:17:29+-5 | <metalL:#debate> | xtra |
| 01/09/05 20:17:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | CGI963: now will you /nick? |
| 01/09/05 20:17:36+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ahhh |
| 01/09/05 20:17:44+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | huh? |
| 01/09/05 20:17:46+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | (MythTV doesn't really have a nice "play URL" interface yet..) |
| 01/09/05 20:17:53+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahah |
| 01/09/05 20:17:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | something funny |
| 01/09/05 20:18:01+-5 | <metalL:#debate> | cant resolve www.r2.co.nz name... |
| 01/09/05 20:18:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm watching on my Myth box. |
| 01/09/05 20:18:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Mikaere Curtis is Green AND MCSD |
| 01/09/05 20:18:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahah |
| 01/09/05 20:18:11+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | what ISP are you with? |
| 01/09/05 20:18:12+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | are there any TV3 news reporters here i wonder.... |
| 01/09/05 20:18:13+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | dave2, we faked it |
| 01/09/05 20:18:14+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | priceless |
| 01/09/05 20:18:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ok it's back on |
| 01/09/05 20:18:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ooh, back |
| 01/09/05 20:18:21+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | dave2, just ran mplayer directly |
| 01/09/05 20:18:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | remember pdt |
| 01/09/05 20:18:24+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | well, the sound is back |
| 01/09/05 20:18:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "big ups to WLUG: |
| 01/09/05 20:18:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you can't stop these slides once they start |
| 01/09/05 20:18:25+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Plug: you x-forwarded? |
| 01/09/05 20:18:27+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hahha |
| 01/09/05 20:18:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | willu: you assume they knew about it? |
| 01/09/05 20:18:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | welcome back |
| 01/09/05 20:18:33+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 20:18:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | halochch: nah, we stopped the frontend :) |
| 01/09/05 20:18:39+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | nil> LOL |
| 01/09/05 20:18:40+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | oh, I could just do that I guess.. |
| 01/09/05 20:18:40+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 150 of us watching |
| 01/09/05 20:18:43+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | <f4tty> is cafenet advertising on TV ? |
| 01/09/05 20:18:45+-5 | <nil:#debate> | lack of mention in idg and herald makes me wonder if any of the main news ppl know about this |
| 01/09/05 20:18:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | bryin is still ahead |
| 01/09/05 20:18:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | woot |
| 01/09/05 20:18:47+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Plug: ah |
| 01/09/05 20:18:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | which stream? |
| 01/09/05 20:18:49+-5 | * jonny:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:18:52+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | only 150 watchers? |
| 01/09/05 20:18:54+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | :-( |
| 01/09/05 20:18:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:18:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | more than prime |
| 01/09/05 20:18:57+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | yay great having split screen too |
| 01/09/05 20:19:00+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:19:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | was that MW? |
| 01/09/05 20:19:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 20:19:03+-5 | <JC:#debate> | hahahaha poor holmes |
| 01/09/05 20:19:04+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | give that man points! :) |
| 01/09/05 20:19:14+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I'm sure there's plenty of people here on IRC that aren't listening or watching... |
| 01/09/05 20:19:15+-5 | <yem:#debate> | any radio stations picking it up? |
| 01/09/05 20:19:24+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | "More than Prime gets!" |
| 01/09/05 20:19:25+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I assume it was MW< point given |
| 01/09/05 20:19:27+-5 | <JC:#debate> | you kinda feel bad for not watching :P |
| 01/09/05 20:19:37+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | but prime has top gear! |
| 01/09/05 20:19:40+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | happy to talk to the journos about how this performed better thatn the internet nz meeting that stephen bell's piece slated - tomorrow |
| 01/09/05 20:19:42+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Yes!! |
| 01/09/05 20:19:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | halochch: so does BitTorrent |
| 01/09/05 20:19:44+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | vote.internetnz.net.nz is ready for more connections on the original questions, if anyone hasn't voted yet |
| 01/09/05 20:19:45+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | whats the point of being in this chat room but not watch/listen? |
| 01/09/05 20:19:45+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | bah, the intertron has topgear too! |
| 01/09/05 20:19:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | halochch: the politicians are in TOP GEAR! |
| 01/09/05 20:19:48+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:19:57+-5 | <JC:#debate> | (without the adverts) |
| 01/09/05 20:19:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it's snowing!!!! |
| 01/09/05 20:20:01+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can't hear you sorry |
| 01/09/05 20:20:03+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | weeee |
| 01/09/05 20:20:03+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 20:20:03+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | feedback |
| 01/09/05 20:20:05+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | white out |
| 01/09/05 20:20:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | got cha now |
| 01/09/05 20:20:07+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | saturation! |
| 01/09/05 20:20:08+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | hmm. its white... |
| 01/09/05 20:20:10+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | feedback.. |
| 01/09/05 20:20:13+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: brightness! |
| 01/09/05 20:20:13+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hrm |
| 01/09/05 20:20:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: we're in sync now |
| 01/09/05 20:20:15+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hahahha |
| 01/09/05 20:20:18+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | can't see or hear anything |
| 01/09/05 20:20:18+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | volume |
| 01/09/05 20:20:20+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | sound would be nice |
| 01/09/05 20:20:21+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Whay david as I live and breath you look kinda white? |
| 01/09/05 20:20:23+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | whiteout.. |
| 01/09/05 20:20:23+-5 | <yem:#debate> | its coooold in wellington |
| 01/09/05 20:20:23+-5 | <moot:#debate> | space aliens are beaming everyone up |
| 01/09/05 20:20:24+-5 | <JC:#debate> | its a whiteout ... |
| 01/09/05 20:20:25+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | turn it up |
| 01/09/05 20:20:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Kyle is here now too |
| 01/09/05 20:20:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | David are you ok? |
| 01/09/05 20:20:30+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | sound and video would be nice |
| 01/09/05 20:20:30+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | VOLUME! |
| 01/09/05 20:20:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you look ill |
| 01/09/05 20:20:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | speak louder PLEASE |
| 01/09/05 20:20:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | PLEASE |
| 01/09/05 20:20:37+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | FOCUS! |
| 01/09/05 20:20:38+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | xyzzy: it's all poked either way :) |
| 01/09/05 20:20:38+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | louder |
| 01/09/05 20:20:40+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Wow, I've got to admit |
| 01/09/05 20:20:40+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | volume! |
| 01/09/05 20:20:41+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can't hear a word |
| 01/09/05 20:20:42+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | boom |
| 01/09/05 20:20:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oi |
| 01/09/05 20:20:44+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | that seems somewhat broken. |
| 01/09/05 20:20:44+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | heh we do look white |
| 01/09/05 20:20:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | ah |
| 01/09/05 20:20:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Thanks |
| 01/09/05 20:20:49+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | turn off your cell phone |
| 01/09/05 20:20:50+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | At first I was critical about this idea, but I can see it works really well. |
| 01/09/05 20:20:50+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | sound better |
| 01/09/05 20:20:51+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | that sounds like DPF. But it looks like antarctica. |
| 01/09/05 20:20:53+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | turn off your cell phone |
| 01/09/05 20:20:54+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | thanks |
| 01/09/05 20:20:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ok bryin, its off |
| 01/09/05 20:20:59+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: check msgs |
| 01/09/05 20:21:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | please dont ring now :) |
| 01/09/05 20:21:01+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oi |
| 01/09/05 20:21:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | stop it now |
| 01/09/05 20:21:02+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:21:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I can hear it |
| 01/09/05 20:21:05+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | thats better cheers |
| 01/09/05 20:21:07+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ooo spim them! |
| 01/09/05 20:21:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: can you plesae make sure that WLUG get mad props by the end? thanks. :) |
| 01/09/05 20:21:15+-5 | <moot:#debate> | i think i saw a penguin |
| 01/09/05 20:21:16+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hopefully the techs will fix that by the next question |
| 01/09/05 20:21:18+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | um, is it just me or is it incredibly white ? |
| 01/09/05 20:21:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'll vote for you if you do |
| 01/09/05 20:21:22+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | the commission is being played! what's the point? |
| 01/09/05 20:21:28+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | it is incredibly white |
| 01/09/05 20:21:29+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:21:32+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | cool |
| 01/09/05 20:21:34+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | the white seems fixed now |
| 01/09/05 20:21:37+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:21:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you guys are major lagged man |
| 01/09/05 20:21:43+-5 | <JC:#debate> | nah, they changed camera (back to Ak) |
| 01/09/05 20:21:50+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 250000 by end of year |
| 01/09/05 20:21:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 1/3 of that overall wholesale?! |
| 01/09/05 20:21:59+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | MW 1, DC 2, MC 1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid |
| 01/09/05 20:22:00+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | pppppppffffffffffffftttttttt |
| 01/09/05 20:22:00+-5 | <metalL:#debate> | got it |
| 01/09/05 20:22:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | year right |
| 01/09/05 20:22:06+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate qstns |
| 01/09/05 20:22:06+-5 | * Neil:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:22:07+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | 1/3 wholesale.. well........ |
| 01/09/05 20:22:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | .... |
| 01/09/05 20:22:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | grumble |
| 01/09/05 20:22:13+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | LennonNZ, :) |
| 01/09/05 20:22:16+-5 | * sneep:#debate | snorts |
| 01/09/05 20:22:25+-5 | <nil:#debate> | but xtra = telecom! |
| 01/09/05 20:22:28+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | left hand wholesales, right hand undercuts.. what's the point? seriously! |
| 01/09/05 20:22:28+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | lol, hi-quality |
| 01/09/05 20:22:33+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nil that is no longer true |
| 01/09/05 20:22:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | one vote off for me for not getting the topic right |
| 01/09/05 20:22:35+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | wholesale = UBS only.. |
| 01/09/05 20:22:44+-5 | <nil:#debate> | bryin: what is no longer true? |
| 01/09/05 20:22:59+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | nil - not sure what you meant in "check mssges" comment? I have no email from here |
| 01/09/05 20:23:00+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | MW 1, DC 2, MC 1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:23:01+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | what do they mean by broadband? what speed? |
| 01/09/05 20:23:11+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | and how usable? |
| 01/09/05 20:23:14+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | asjl: anything over dialup :) |
| 01/09/05 20:23:15+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Mikaere, *yawn* |
| 01/09/05 20:23:16+-5 | <nil:#debate> | check your messages on irc is what I meant |
| 01/09/05 20:23:17+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Mmm this sucks: I like many of the green's ICT policies, pitty they're pro drugs, and want to make cars illegal :P |
| 01/09/05 20:23:27+-5 | <nil:#debate> | andy: 56k! |
| 01/09/05 20:23:27+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hoick it up maurice |
| 01/09/05 20:23:27+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | What about the fact that the margins for people wanting to wholesale telecom DSL is between $0 and $10 / user / month? |
| 01/09/05 20:23:28+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | down with cars! |
| 01/09/05 20:23:34+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | die Maurice |
| 01/09/05 20:23:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | split telecom david |
| 01/09/05 20:23:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | do it |
| 01/09/05 20:23:39+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | do it NOW |
| 01/09/05 20:23:40+-5 | <moot:#debate> | "pro drugs"!? |
| 01/09/05 20:23:42+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | And that they have no control over what's offered? |
| 01/09/05 20:23:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he is scared |
| 01/09/05 20:23:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:23:49+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | what is his answer |
| 01/09/05 20:23:52+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | these banners are unreadable lol |
| 01/09/05 20:23:54+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | this will make it to the newspapers |
| 01/09/05 20:23:58+-5 | <dub:#debate> | does maurice actually know anything? |
| 01/09/05 20:24:00+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Willu: I can read them fine |
| 01/09/05 20:24:00+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, indeed |
| 01/09/05 20:24:01+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | arachnid: possitive profits on UBS.. |
| 01/09/05 20:24:04+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | oh bollocks modems are the work of the devil and basing a standard on them is just eveil |
| 01/09/05 20:24:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dub: do you want -1 for dumbness? |
| 01/09/05 20:24:08+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | at 56k i meant |
| 01/09/05 20:24:10+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | LennonNZ: What? |
| 01/09/05 20:24:14+-5 | <nathan:#debate> | readable here |
| 01/09/05 20:24:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | WOW |
| 01/09/05 20:24:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | As to the papers, the should have been in the papers today ! |
| 01/09/05 20:24:21+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | multilateral |
| 01/09/05 20:24:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> halochch: do you have shoes yet? |
| 01/09/05 20:24:27+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | no even at 56k |
| 01/09/05 20:24:31+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | just the comment you think people make proifts on UBS. see Seeby statement a month ago or so |
| 01/09/05 20:24:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | LennonNZ: url/ |
| 01/09/05 20:24:37+-5 | <yem:#debate> | has de/peering been covered? |
| 01/09/05 20:24:37+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Plug: no at the moment |
| 01/09/05 20:24:44+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Nobody MADE seeby price UBS so low. |
| 01/09/05 20:24:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | the greig> at the beginning means greig said it, not me. :) |
| 01/09/05 20:24:54+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Everyone else was going to price it higher til he entered with such a low price. |
| 01/09/05 20:24:55+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | question 19 is really great |
| 01/09/05 20:24:57+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I said margins, not profits |
| 01/09/05 20:24:58+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | playing with minimum speeds is playing in the margins, it's not a real solution.. |
| 01/09/05 20:25:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | David CUNLIFFE -1 ::: question evasion and lying through his teeth |
| 01/09/05 20:25:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: in saying that, I'm going to change to orcon because. market share helsp |
| 01/09/05 20:25:21+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | $10/month is all they have if they want to compete with Xtra |
| 01/09/05 20:25:25+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I am an Orcon customer |
| 01/09/05 20:25:26+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 1, DC 1, MC 1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:25:30+-5 | <nil:#debate> | actually for the sake of time etc maybe we should vote on what questions we want asked |
| 01/09/05 20:25:38+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | And if they want to provide tollcalls as well, they have to have $0 markup to compete. |
| 01/09/05 20:25:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: reorder them at will |
| 01/09/05 20:25:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | I doubt they make it to answering all 20 questions |
| 01/09/05 20:25:57+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i vote for reordering them |
| 01/09/05 20:26:01+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | like theydid with Telstra in AU |
| 01/09/05 20:26:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | make sure you own up to having asked a question. precednet is you get ap oint |
| 01/09/05 20:26:03+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | but don't us all do it |
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| 01/09/05 20:26:08+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 'or it will get stupid |
| 01/09/05 20:26:10+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | they've been there - telecom services and networks it dind't work |
| 01/09/05 20:26:12+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | get the mod to do it |
| 01/09/05 20:26:15+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | they're splitting Telstra in AU now, since it didn't work |
| 01/09/05 20:26:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I reckon MW gets a point for that |
| 01/09/05 20:26:18+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | why bother doing that here? |
| 01/09/05 20:26:22+-5 | <JC:#debate> | Haven't there been all sorts of issues with electronic voting in the US? |
| 01/09/05 20:26:22+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | good luck |
| 01/09/05 20:26:25+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 2, DC 1, MC 1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:26:37+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | JC: Massive ones |
| 01/09/05 20:26:37+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | poor maurice |
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| 01/09/05 20:26:40+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Chinese wall - yeah, right |
| 01/09/05 20:26:41+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Most of which have been ignored |
| 01/09/05 20:26:43+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | cant talk |
| 01/09/05 20:26:44+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Whats the quality of vid and audio online anyone? |
| 01/09/05 20:26:44+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | JC: only because there are corporate interests at stake |
| 01/09/05 20:26:45+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i think the internet should be used for regular referendums |
| 01/09/05 20:26:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oi |
| 01/09/05 20:26:52+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | keith_inz: pretty good |
| 01/09/05 20:26:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | keith_inz> fine |
| 01/09/05 20:26:54+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | 384K stream 100% good |
| 01/09/05 20:26:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | stop typing so loud please |
| 01/09/05 20:26:56+-5 | <JC:#debate> | I think its a good idea myself |
| 01/09/05 20:26:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | LennonNZ: I agree |
| 01/09/05 20:27:06+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | There is not legitimate technological, nor process reason why e-voting cannot be done |
| 01/09/05 20:27:12+-5 | <JC:#debate> | we'd have a lot more access to our politicians in terms of referendums etc |
| 01/09/05 20:27:16+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | indeed |
| 01/09/05 20:27:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Like Telecom has no preferential treatment of xtra? |
| 01/09/05 20:27:24+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | you can't do that in one company, there will be huge pressure on line managers to do the right thing by the company.. |
| 01/09/05 20:27:28+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | what's wrong with creating policy in an Internet chat room |
| 01/09/05 20:27:33+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | plug : of course not !!!!one!11 |
| 01/09/05 20:27:35+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | But it _hasn't_ been done adequately. Diebold's 'solutions' certainly don't work. |
| 01/09/05 20:27:35+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 20:27:39+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | why not dpf ;-)))) |
| 01/09/05 20:27:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I will give 3 points each to each MP who gets on this channel at the end of the debate |
| 01/09/05 20:27:44+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | arachnid: for sure |
| 01/09/05 20:27:48+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | does the national mp realise hes not on a chatroom ... |
| 01/09/05 20:27:50+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | GOGO MAURICE! |
| 01/09/05 20:27:51+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | But there are open e-voting systems |
| 01/09/05 20:27:56+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | even better they are in use |
| 01/09/05 20:27:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: he will be at the end |
| 01/09/05 20:27:59+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Plug: that's not enough. Will you vote for the first one to join? |
| 01/09/05 20:28:00+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | And as far as web voting (per the question on wlug), pull the other one. |
| 01/09/05 20:28:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | which of you is typing on IRC? |
| 01/09/05 20:28:05+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | HAH! I predicted it... |
| 01/09/05 20:28:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | xyzzy: I'm conflicted |
| 01/09/05 20:28:11+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | OZ local elections used an FOSS evoting system |
| 01/09/05 20:28:28+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Plug: how about the first one to join who isn't MW? |
| 01/09/05 20:28:32+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | telecoms preferential treatment is evident clearly in connection times, xtra takes 3 days, other ISPs take 3 weeks |
| 01/09/05 20:28:33+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | There is a huge ammount of FOSS interest in evoting and a large number of systems and websites dealing with the subject |
| 01/09/05 20:28:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | erm. Why is Maurice Wn' "HON" and not Cunliffe? |
| 01/09/05 20:28:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 20:28:48+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I want GOOD shareholder returns on my Telecom shares!!! |
| 01/09/05 20:28:51+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | The problem seems to mainly be in legitimicacy of solutions |
| 01/09/05 20:28:52+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | if you edit the wlug wiki page and put your nick by the questions you're interested in |
| 01/09/05 20:28:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | -10000 to the Greens |
| 01/09/05 20:29:00+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | The HON is short for 'honey'.... |
| 01/09/05 20:29:00+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: you can only do one |
| 01/09/05 20:29:01+-5 | * aegir:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:29:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | this is slashdot remember |
| 01/09/05 20:29:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | then we can use that as a way to vote for which questions are important |
| 01/09/05 20:29:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | -1 to the Greens |
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| 01/09/05 20:29:14+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 128 is freaking evil |
| 01/09/05 20:29:16+-5 | * Bryin:#debate | got passionate |
| 01/09/05 20:29:17+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 2, DC 1, MC 0 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:29:20+-5 | <moot:#debate> | Bryin: that's fine. we'll downgrade your current GREAT shareholder returns to GOOD and pay for decent broadband |
| 01/09/05 20:29:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Maurice is winning atm |
| 01/09/05 20:29:24+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | plug: minister outside cabinet? |
| 01/09/05 20:29:28+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | 128k is a tiny pipe of no value |
| 01/09/05 20:29:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | gr8w11ne: minister outside government? :) |
| 01/09/05 20:29:33+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | who is this guy ? |
| 01/09/05 20:29:35+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: agreed |
| 01/09/05 20:29:37+-5 | * Bjorn:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 20:29:38+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | moot: that's too socialist for me |
| 01/09/05 20:29:41+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | no white please! |
| 01/09/05 20:29:44+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | w00t |
| 01/09/05 20:29:48+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | picutre in picture of themselves |
| 01/09/05 20:29:50+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | echo? echo? |
| 01/09/05 20:29:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Which of you is Phil? |
| 01/09/05 20:29:51+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yay |
| 01/09/05 20:29:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | TURN UP THE VOLUME |
| 01/09/05 20:29:52+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | wellington volume! |
| 01/09/05 20:29:52+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | please |
| 01/09/05 20:29:53+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | more volume from wellington |
| 01/09/05 20:29:54+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | up! |
| 01/09/05 20:29:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hello?!?!?! |
| 01/09/05 20:29:55+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | ok good picture.. but no sound |
| 01/09/05 20:29:57+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | "DRM"? |
| 01/09/05 20:30:01+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | now fix the volume you twits |
| 01/09/05 20:30:02+-5 | <CGI641:#debate> | phooy |
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| 01/09/05 20:30:07+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can someone please restate the question in Auckland???? |
| 01/09/05 20:30:08+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | thanks |
| 01/09/05 20:30:10+-5 | <Ginji:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 20:30:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: they're not twits, they are trying |
| 01/09/05 20:30:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can someone please restate the question in Auckland???? |
| 01/09/05 20:30:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | be nice |
| 01/09/05 20:30:13+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | dpf: we can't hear ya'll there |
| 01/09/05 20:30:17+-5 | * Willu:#debate | hold speaker to ear |
| 01/09/05 20:30:19+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can someone please restate the question in Auckland???? |
| 01/09/05 20:30:29+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | "righting the balance between users and suppliers in digital rights" |
| 01/09/05 20:30:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | what is the question?!?! |
| 01/09/05 20:30:31+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | This ends getting muted when we're speaking - the audio feed comes from there... |
| 01/09/05 20:30:41+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Bryin, SURE NOW STOP USING BOLD. |
| 01/09/05 20:30:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | jonny: are you in the room where the wn people are? |
| 01/09/05 20:30:50+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | ye |
| 01/09/05 20:30:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | is it that quiet there? :) |
| 01/09/05 20:30:57+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | and the wgtn picture-in-picture shows wellington again... |
| 01/09/05 20:30:58+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | ask about open standards for documents instead of proprietry formats |
| 01/09/05 20:31:01+-5 | <nil:#debate> | iso: he'll try colours next |
| 01/09/05 20:31:08+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | no, not quiet. very load |
| 01/09/05 20:31:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | do you see them PiP? :) |
| 01/09/05 20:31:20+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | or maybe loud jonny? |
| 01/09/05 20:31:22+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | yep :) we rock! |
| 01/09/05 20:31:24+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 20:31:25+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | legal rights?!?! |
| 01/09/05 20:31:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | what about ILLEGAL rights? |
| 01/09/05 20:31:33+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | 384k stream is skippidy doo dah |
| 01/09/05 20:31:39+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i would have thought they'd have the volume working in testing |
| 01/09/05 20:31:41+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | trogs: not here |
| 01/09/05 20:31:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | pat tin ting |
| 01/09/05 20:31:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | jonny: ten points if you are on TV holding up a piece of paper with 'big ups to WLUG' on it :) |
| 01/09/05 20:31:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Bryin, well, timeshifting, format shifting etc |
| 01/09/05 20:31:47+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | Patents and DRM are not the same |
| 01/09/05 20:31:50+-5 | * daork:#debate | wonders why he cant get the stream from woosh |
| 01/09/05 20:31:52+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Indeed |
| 01/09/05 20:31:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hi daork |
| 01/09/05 20:31:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Bryin, format shifting afaik is illegal in NZ |
| 01/09/05 20:32:01+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | daork> i'm on woosh and its working |
| 01/09/05 20:32:02+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Yes, it is |
| 01/09/05 20:32:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you are informed correctly Isomer |
| 01/09/05 20:32:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: use : when pointing at osmeone |
| 01/09/05 20:32:09+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | There's a copyright review underway - has been since ~96 |
| 01/09/05 20:32:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | foo> means foo said that |
| 01/09/05 20:32:14+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | So everyone voted at vote.internetnz.net.nz ??? |
| 01/09/05 20:32:19+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Oh, and it only allows one copy per format, for some reason |
| 01/09/05 20:32:24+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | copyright review will go on for decades.. |
| 01/09/05 20:32:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | did Cunliffe say he was going to make CD->ipod legal? |
| 01/09/05 20:32:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 if he did |
| 01/09/05 20:32:34+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | http://www.med.govt.nz/buslt/int_prop/digital/ |
| 01/09/05 20:32:35+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | plug: yes |
| 01/09/05 20:32:36+-5 | <moot:#debate> | that's what i heard |
| 01/09/05 20:32:37+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Make that 1994. |
| 01/09/05 20:32:38+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | theres no way to police format shifting |
| 01/09/05 20:32:38+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: no.I won't do that till I have listened to the stream |
| 01/09/05 20:32:39+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Over 10 years. |
| 01/09/05 20:32:40+-5 | * aenertia:#debate | says let them have all the strong IP laws they like |
| 01/09/05 20:32:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | kyle> format shifting from cd to cd is ok :) |
| 01/09/05 20:32:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | "in the main" LOL |
| 01/09/05 20:32:44+-5 | * nil:#debate | isn't listnening to it |
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| 01/09/05 20:32:46+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | yes govt policy is to change the law to allow format shifting |
| 01/09/05 20:32:49+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | has passed the wikipage on to the journos |
| 01/09/05 20:32:51+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | Just make a new set of "Fair use" law |
| 01/09/05 20:32:51+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | +1 /. mentioning |
| 01/09/05 20:32:51+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | but not finally signed off |
| 01/09/05 20:32:55+-5 | <daork:#debate> | Willu: hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:32:55+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | for the greens |
| 01/09/05 20:32:58+-5 | <daork:#debate> | i cant seem to get it |
| 01/09/05 20:32:59+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 2, DC 2, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:33:01+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | to protect actual real peoples behaviours and use |
| 01/09/05 20:33:02+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | okay, now I'm annoyed about the Greens guy always talking about /. |
| 01/09/05 20:33:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | NO |
| 01/09/05 20:33:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | no privacy or piracy -- thich one??! |
| 01/09/05 20:33:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he gets -1 for always mentioning slashdot |
| 01/09/05 20:33:08+-5 | <daork:#debate> | Willu: what stream are you on? |
| 01/09/05 20:33:08+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | this green guy seems far too keen on slashdot |
| 01/09/05 20:33:08+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | -10 mentioning /. as some sort of authoritative reference |
| 01/09/05 20:33:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | (thanks dave2) |
| 01/09/05 20:33:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: yes |
| 01/09/05 20:33:13+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Bryin: neither |
| 01/09/05 20:33:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | arachnid: no, only -1 at a tiem |
| 01/09/05 20:33:16+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | -1 greens is what I mean |
| 01/09/05 20:33:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Linux |
| 01/09/05 20:33:20+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oooer +1 |
| 01/09/05 20:33:22+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Any other useful questions lurking in the background? |
| 01/09/05 20:33:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: you are 5 secs ahead of me |
| 01/09/05 20:33:31+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, see the wlug url in the topic |
| 01/09/05 20:33:33+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | keith_inz: you've seen the wiki? |
| 01/09/05 20:33:37+-5 | * CGI719:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:33:39+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | er. snap? |
| 01/09/05 20:33:44+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | daork> i'm on 56k video |
| 01/09/05 20:33:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, :) |
| 01/09/05 20:33:52+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith if you have time o ask fll of those questions we'll dd more |
| 01/09/05 20:33:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | maybe that Makybe is Roland Piquepalle |
| 01/09/05 20:33:55+-5 | <daork:#debate> | hmm, i'll try that then |
| 01/09/05 20:34:00+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I get the impression he gets most of his opinions from /. |
| 01/09/05 20:34:02+-5 | <daork:#debate> | i tries all the ones above it first |
| 01/09/05 20:34:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | now |
| 01/09/05 20:34:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he's thinking "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe they need to be regulated" |
| 01/09/05 20:34:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | where did russel brown's Computers column in the listener go? |
| 01/09/05 20:34:12+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | what on earth is the green talking about -_- |
| 01/09/05 20:34:13+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahah |
| 01/09/05 20:34:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | format shifting via 802.11g |
| 01/09/05 20:34:22+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | naught Maurice |
| 01/09/05 20:34:24+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | rofl |
| 01/09/05 20:34:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | you break the law |
| 01/09/05 20:34:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | call the police |
| 01/09/05 20:34:27+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | NOW |
| 01/09/05 20:34:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | 802.11 is format shifting? |
| 01/09/05 20:34:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | NOW |
| 01/09/05 20:34:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to maurice |
| 01/09/05 20:34:36+-5 | <yem:#debate> | Plug: canned last year iirc in favour of a general media column |
| 01/09/05 20:34:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thats not format shifting |
| 01/09/05 20:34:41+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: yes it is |
| 01/09/05 20:34:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | yem: I wonder at whos idea though |
| 01/09/05 20:34:43+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:34:44+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes only 11 votes cast so far at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ - please do vote. cheers |
| 01/09/05 20:34:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | it changes format |
| 01/09/05 20:34:50+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: I'll txt or call you at around 9:30 or 10pm |
| 01/09/05 20:34:55+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 1, DC 2, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:34:58+-5 | <MikiwiS:#debate> | Do the Parties support User ENUM; mapping telephone numbers into internet addresses for New Zealand ? |
| 01/09/05 20:35:00+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | As i said, there is no way to police it |
| 01/09/05 20:35:02+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | keep music live! |
| 01/09/05 20:35:04+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Bryin: In that case, using a digital audio cable is format shifting... |
| 01/09/05 20:35:05+-5 | <moot:#debate> | /kick MauriceWilliamson |
| 01/09/05 20:35:09+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Isomer: maybe ATM is format shifting too... |
| 01/09/05 20:35:11+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Bryin, a stereo changes it from holes in a CD to sound pressure waves... |
| 01/09/05 20:35:14+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, maybe! |
| 01/09/05 20:35:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | arachnid: read the legislation - you will find that case is covered |
| 01/09/05 20:35:30+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | But 802.11 isn't? |
| 01/09/05 20:35:33+-5 | <CGI641:#debate> | is the limitation of line speed down to connection rate, considered a ploy to increase latency ? |
| 01/09/05 20:35:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | arachnid: nope, because it has left the device |
| 01/09/05 20:35:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | yes' |
| 01/09/05 20:35:48+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | CGI306, I think so yes. |
| 01/09/05 20:35:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | CGI641: and thanks for asking |
| 01/09/05 20:35:54+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | i'd like to hear the pollies and not pdt |
| 01/09/05 20:36:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'd like to hear PDT mention the phrase "Big ups to WLUG" |
| 01/09/05 20:36:07+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Bryin: It's left the device when it travels over a digital audio cable between the CD player and the amp |
| 01/09/05 20:36:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'll so vote for him if he does :) |
| 01/09/05 20:36:16+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Vote for PDT! |
| 01/09/05 20:36:18+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Message thru to PDT |
| 01/09/05 20:36:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | paradigm shift!!!% |
| 01/09/05 20:36:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to PDT :) |
| 01/09/05 20:36:23+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ?!?!?1 |
| 01/09/05 20:36:27+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | wellington where are you? |
| 01/09/05 20:36:30+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | WELLINGTON VOLUME! |
| 01/09/05 20:36:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | echo in wgtn |
| 01/09/05 20:36:35+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | its slightly louder now |
| 01/09/05 20:36:39+-5 | <daork:#debate> | damn, i knew i should have fixed my domestic routing weirdness before now |
| 01/09/05 20:36:44+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | it's the way echo cancellation and near end muting works on the polycom video conf unit... |
| 01/09/05 20:36:51+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | it also kills the audio feed to the streamer. |
| 01/09/05 20:36:52+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | jonny, ahh |
| 01/09/05 20:36:52+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | DRM should never be allowed to _destroy my equipment_ |
| 01/09/05 20:36:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to Phil for Going Forard |
| 01/09/05 20:37:01+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | if I own it, I can modify it as much as I like |
| 01/09/05 20:37:03+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | dave2: or your media :) |
| 01/09/05 20:37:06+-5 | <patpatnz:#debate> | daork: same with me, I can ping but can't connect (port 1755 yea?) |
| 01/09/05 20:37:11+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | peering! |
| 01/09/05 20:37:13+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | +1 to the PDT for sane use of the example of video being a benifit to the film industry even when they cried out against it |
| 01/09/05 20:37:13+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | go the digger and the rat! |
| 01/09/05 20:37:15+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | "should govt agcy be required to use peering exchanges?" |
| 01/09/05 20:37:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | arachnid: I dont know if I saw that |
| 01/09/05 20:37:23+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Isomer: YES |
| 01/09/05 20:37:33+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | remember those self-destroying-dvds they tried to bring in years ago? hehe |
| 01/09/05 20:37:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: I'll touch Isomer for $10 |
| 01/09/05 20:37:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | paypal accepted |
| 01/09/05 20:37:37+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | pass |
| 01/09/05 20:37:41+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he is now in a stadium |
| 01/09/05 20:37:46+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | good work guys ! |
| 01/09/05 20:37:47+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Plug: You can buy me a beer if you touch Isomer. |
| 01/09/05 20:37:48+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Video AND Audio echo! |
| 01/09/05 20:37:52+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | letsssssssssssssss get readdddddddddddddy to rrrruuuuuuunmmmmmmmmbbbbbblllleeee |
| 01/09/05 20:37:52+-5 | <daork:#debate> | xyzzy: was that aimed at me? |
| 01/09/05 20:37:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we believe Phil may have been the first vocalist for Pink Floyd |
| 01/09/05 20:37:53+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I missed the second question |
| 01/09/05 20:37:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: I would, but I'm told you like to buy Isomer beer |
| 01/09/05 20:38:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | turn of your cellphone again please |
| 01/09/05 20:38:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you might like to tell me next time |
| 01/09/05 20:38:05+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | hope someone is arching this channel so we can publish it |
| 01/09/05 20:38:06+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i don't mind the echo.. so long as its louder |
| 01/09/05 20:38:08+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | daork: er. which? |
| 01/09/05 20:38:08+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | archiving |
| 01/09/05 20:38:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | * greig touches isomer |
| 01/09/05 20:38:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> I owe you a beer |
| 01/09/05 20:38:18+-5 | <daork:#debate> | xyzzy: "peering!" |
| 01/09/05 20:38:27+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahah |
| 01/09/05 20:38:27+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | +3 Greens |
| 01/09/05 20:38:28+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | daork: I was just pleased they were talking about it :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:38:30+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | restate the question |
| 01/09/05 20:38:32+-5 | <daork:#debate> | oh, right |
| 01/09/05 20:38:33+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | -3 Greens |
| 01/09/05 20:38:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: only +1, dude |
| 01/09/05 20:38:37+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Someone wake the labour guy up |
| 01/09/05 20:38:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | those two cancel out :0 |
| 01/09/05 20:38:38+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | :P |
| 01/09/05 20:38:44+-5 | <nil:#debate> | cunliff? |
| 01/09/05 20:38:47+-5 | <daork:#debate> | peering is a political issue now? |
| 01/09/05 20:38:49+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Collective Decision |
| 01/09/05 20:38:54+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | onloy if you're trying to make mon ey out of it (peering is complicated... yeah right!) |
| 01/09/05 20:39:01+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | YAY |
| 01/09/05 20:39:06+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | peering isn't comple!~ |
| 01/09/05 20:39:09+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | +1 for ROUTING pronunciation |
| 01/09/05 20:39:14+-5 | * Plug:#debate | wags his doogu |
| 01/09/05 20:39:14+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I miss peering... free national :( |
| 01/09/05 20:39:16+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | +1 cunliffe |
| 01/09/05 20:39:16+-5 | * daork:#debate | tries to imagine government enforced peering |
| 01/09/05 20:39:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:39:22+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | wagadudu |
| 01/09/05 20:39:26+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | latency goes up massively if it goes out of the country |
| 01/09/05 20:39:27+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | latency goes up massively. it's not just "to some extent" |
| 01/09/05 20:39:31+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | not so much govt enforced peering, you don't do it that way |
| 01/09/05 20:39:32+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | how do you spell wagadoogoo.. i dont think its on google mapss |
| 01/09/05 20:39:32+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | daork: you are comparing apples with peers |
| 01/09/05 20:39:33+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | latency is only a small thing with non-peering. err its a big thing |
| 01/09/05 20:39:37+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | we need peering for emails from business roundtable to national |
| 01/09/05 20:39:40+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | and bandwidth is proportional to latency |
| 01/09/05 20:39:44+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 1, DC 3, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:39:44+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | you say, govt will only obtain bandwidth from peered providers.. |
| 01/09/05 20:39:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Hi matt |
| 01/09/05 20:39:47+-5 | <CGI641:#debate> | damn straight!! |
| 01/09/05 20:39:51+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | watch how quickly they change |
| 01/09/05 20:39:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 for business quote |
| 01/09/05 20:39:59+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | dave2: Good idea. |
| 01/09/05 20:39:59+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hmm volume increase |
| 01/09/05 20:40:04+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 1, DC 2, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:40:07+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | my voip has to go through wierd tunnels to avoid an extra 60ms hop through auckland, due to TCL depeering |
| 01/09/05 20:40:09+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | Hi Plug |
| 01/09/05 20:40:09+-5 | <daork:#debate> | dave2: the govt buys enough bandwidth? |
| 01/09/05 20:40:09+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | Willu - better? |
| 01/09/05 20:40:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | (sorry for the topic change spam btw) |
| 01/09/05 20:40:14+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yup |
| 01/09/05 20:40:19+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Plug: no worries |
| 01/09/05 20:40:19+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | keep the red flag flying high - go David |
| 01/09/05 20:40:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | mattb: greig, kyle, Iso, Tony and I here |
| 01/09/05 20:40:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | more than Prime watchers I believe |
| 01/09/05 20:40:41+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | daork: they have a truckload of circuits, and they do rather like one provider.. it'll trickle into many things.. |
| 01/09/05 20:40:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | beautifulist? |
| 01/09/05 20:40:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> -1 |
| 01/09/05 20:40:54+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | you know, this is actually pretty awesome... i just can't belive its taken until 2005 to do this |
| 01/09/05 20:40:58+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 0, DC 2, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:41:01+-5 | <daork:#debate> | dave2: circuits, yeah. they are quite different from internet bandwidth though |
| 01/09/05 20:41:03+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, indeed |
| 01/09/05 20:41:07+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | live internet cast debate :D |
| 01/09/05 20:41:11+-5 | <daork:#debate> | and IMO should not be related |
| 01/09/05 20:41:23+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | hi mattb |
| 01/09/05 20:41:23+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | hm |
| 01/09/05 20:41:24+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | daork: point is to make their preferred supplier selection include that criteria.. |
| 01/09/05 20:41:25+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | Willu: no it's not awesome at all... the OZie did it for the 2000 olympics... |
| 01/09/05 20:41:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ok, please prioritise the Q's on http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 20:41:28+-5 | <aenertia:#debate> | we are way behind |
| 01/09/05 20:41:33+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 40 mins to go |
| 01/09/05 20:41:36+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | I'm on telstraclear, and my route to the stream goes straight from TC to APE |
| 01/09/05 20:41:38+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oops |
| 01/09/05 20:41:39+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 20 mins I mean |
| 01/09/05 20:41:40+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | aenertia> i mean for new zealand |
| 01/09/05 20:41:44+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | 37ms |
| 01/09/05 20:41:45+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | put your nicks by questions that you want asked |
| 01/09/05 20:41:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I hope you guys know that Rockstar:INXS is on at 9:30 |
| 01/09/05 20:41:56+-5 | <yem:#debate> | has number portability come up? |
| 01/09/05 20:41:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: when speaking to someone else, please say "name: foo" |
| 01/09/05 20:42:01+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:42:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | boys playing in wellington |
| 01/09/05 20:42:07+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | screw INXS |
| 01/09/05 20:42:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 WillU |
| 01/09/05 20:42:19+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | what, never over till its over and its never over.... grief |
| 01/09/05 20:42:19+-5 | <daork:#debate> | dave2: maybe, but what if only telecom can provide circuits for the IRD's VPN in Nelson? |
| 01/09/05 20:42:30+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | wholesale 'em |
| 01/09/05 20:42:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | lol, don't insult score-coutner |
| 01/09/05 20:42:34+-5 | <daork:#debate> | and then, do you want to have another provider for all the other cities? |
| 01/09/05 20:42:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | My father has worked for the post office for 30 year.s |
| 01/09/05 20:42:42+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: when someone messages you privately either a window pops up OR it ends up in one of your already open windows |
| 01/09/05 20:42:55+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | daork: Then you specify that when there are multiple providers, the government department must pick one that peers, if any |
| 01/09/05 20:42:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I remember going to the Fairlie telephone exchange and being told "this rack is EFTPOS" |
| 01/09/05 20:43:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "ooh, whats that?" |
| 01/09/05 20:43:15+-5 | <daork:#debate> | arachnid: so you have inter provider VPNs? |
| 01/09/05 20:43:16+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | poor Phil |
| 01/09/05 20:43:19+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | can't hear a word he says |
| 01/09/05 20:43:23+-5 | <daork:#debate> | does anyone do that right now? |
| 01/09/05 20:43:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you can see some glare :) |
| 01/09/05 20:43:26+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | wooo |
| 01/09/05 20:43:32+-5 | <daork:#debate> | does anyone plan to in the near future? |
| 01/09/05 20:43:34+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I need a AccuPhase!!! |
| 01/09/05 20:43:34+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | daork: Well, it depends on how you're doing it. |
| 01/09/05 20:43:35+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hahha |
| 01/09/05 20:43:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ONE OF THESE DAYS |
| 01/09/05 20:43:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'M GOING TO CUT YOU INTO LITTLE PIECES |
| 01/09/05 20:43:41+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Much the same as the US govt does with regards to accessibility requirements on stuff their departments buy |
| 01/09/05 20:43:42+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | If you're talking about MPLS inter-provider, no, I don't think anyone is doing it today. |
| 01/09/05 20:43:43+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | eeeeccchhhhoooo |
| 01/09/05 20:43:45+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | echoooooo |
| 01/09/05 20:43:47+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf/keith: what happens after 9pm if ppl stil have questoins? |
| 01/09/05 20:43:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: please please please |
| 01/09/05 20:43:49+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | If there's an accessible alternative, they have to buy it |
| 01/09/05 20:43:54+-5 | * CGI643:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:43:56+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hey i lost my FEED !!! |
| 01/09/05 20:43:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | say ONE OF THESE DAYS etc ;) |
| 01/09/05 20:44:02+-5 | <moot:#debate> | anti-spam legislation |
| 01/09/05 20:44:03+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | daork, however if you're buying commodity internet and running your own VPNs on top of it, nothing to stop that.. |
| 01/09/05 20:44:05+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | 1 to PDT :) |
| 01/09/05 20:44:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dave2: sold |
| 01/09/05 20:44:10+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | back now -_- |
| 01/09/05 20:44:15+-5 | <nil:#debate> | err I think MPLS is a bit much to discuss sneep. KIS |
| 01/09/05 20:44:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'll keep score offline for a while |
| 01/09/05 20:44:29+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | whats the question ? |
| 01/09/05 20:44:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | please give me updats though |
| 01/09/05 20:44:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 for preventing spam? |
| 01/09/05 20:44:37+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | nvm |
| 01/09/05 20:44:37+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | daork asked a question. presumably he wanted an answer. |
| 01/09/05 20:44:42+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, "antispam legislation? do you support it?" |
| 01/09/05 20:44:50+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | thanks |
| 01/09/05 20:44:53+-5 | <dub:#debate> | yeah nah |
| 01/09/05 20:44:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | np |
| 01/09/05 20:44:55+-5 | <daork:#debate> | sneep: exactly, but is running VPNs over the internet an idea that government departments will adopt? |
| 01/09/05 20:45:04+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | this question is a pretty big "DUH" |
| 01/09/05 20:45:10+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | +1 Greens for not being stupid about spam |
| 01/09/05 20:45:12+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | nil - 9pm is end - you have 1 question now? |
| 01/09/05 20:45:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: "actually I quite like spam" :) |
| 01/09/05 20:45:13+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | -1 National |
| 01/09/05 20:45:19+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | eeew, MW likes opt-out |
| 01/09/05 20:45:22+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | -10 National |
| 01/09/05 20:45:24+-5 | <daork:#debate> | it only takes one security nut to say "anything on the internet is bad" for that to fail |
| 01/09/05 20:45:25+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | errr. opt out! wrong |
| 01/09/05 20:45:27+-5 | <nil:#debate> | someone pl point keith to the questions page |
| 01/09/05 20:45:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: LISTEN. THERE IS ONLY ONE POINT |
| 01/09/05 20:45:39+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | No idea. Presumably not, because it's "hard". but if they did, atleast there'd be an argument to actually ensure traffic was routed locally. I'd like to see the govt depts either peer on IXes or only buy transit from fully peered operators, but I don't see that happening. |
| 01/09/05 20:45:43+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | so I can send spam but stop only when opt-out |
| 01/09/05 20:45:43+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | He doesn't have a clue, needs to be worked at by international links |
| 01/09/05 20:45:45+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | can someone ask MW how many different spammers there are, and if we have to opt out from all of them? |
| 01/09/05 20:45:47+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | We got the wiki listed here |
| 01/09/05 20:45:47+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Can someone beat into him that doing that requires giving the spammers your email address and verifying you read their spam? |
| 01/09/05 20:45:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ask him to name the spammers plskthx |
| 01/09/05 20:45:59+-5 | <dub:#debate> | wtf, someone take williamson out and shoot him |
| 01/09/05 20:46:01+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: questions we want asked are wiki'd |
| 01/09/05 20:46:01+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | this has nothing to do with physical mail, maurice. |
| 01/09/05 20:46:03+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Hey National MP, give us your email ! |
| 01/09/05 20:46:06+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, cool |
| 01/09/05 20:46:07+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | what about cost of ownership of microsoft softwre when you consider virus and spam |
| 01/09/05 20:46:09+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | microsoft say 5% of spam coming into NZ comes from NZ people |
| 01/09/05 20:46:15+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | What size cluestick should we use arachnid>?? |
| 01/09/05 20:46:15+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | or something like that |
| 01/09/05 20:46:17+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes only 15 votes cast so far at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ - please do vote. cheers |
| 01/09/05 20:46:32+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Labour++ |
| 01/09/05 20:46:32+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ColinJ> will do it tomorrow |
| 01/09/05 20:46:34+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | yay |
| 01/09/05 20:46:37+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Labour +1 for AntiSpam |
| 01/09/05 20:46:39+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ++ labour |
| 01/09/05 20:46:42+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | 1 point to the minister.. |
| 01/09/05 20:46:50+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | asjl: What does spam have to do with the cost of ownership of microsoft software? |
| 01/09/05 20:46:52+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Labour WINS |
| 01/09/05 20:46:52+-5 | <moot:#debate> | Labour +1 for opt-in not opt-out |
| 01/09/05 20:46:53+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: only one? |
| 01/09/05 20:46:57+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | keith_inz: A clue-by-four. |
| 01/09/05 20:46:59+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | And why should an ISP be the first point of contact - the ISP who really can't do much about it... |
| 01/09/05 20:47:00+-5 | <dub:#debate> | fatality |
| 01/09/05 20:47:10+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | xyzzy: yeah, I'm stingy :) |
| 01/09/05 20:47:10+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | wallingfo: The ISPs for the spammers can |
| 01/09/05 20:47:10+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW -1, DC 3, MC 0 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:47:21+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | when will a archive copy of this cast be available? |
| 01/09/05 20:47:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | halochch: 2hrs afer |
| 01/09/05 20:47:27+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | anyone remember that spammer in christchurch ? *grins |
| 01/09/05 20:47:28+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | But first contact in the bill is YOUR isp... |
| 01/09/05 20:47:30+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | k |
| 01/09/05 20:47:32+-5 | <nil:#debate> | halogium: 2 hours after. RTFM |
| 01/09/05 20:47:34+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: it's the most obvious cluefulness I've seen displayed so far |
| 01/09/05 20:47:34+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | atkinson |
| 01/09/05 20:47:39+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | nil: :) |
| 01/09/05 20:47:47+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | he stopped after death threats |
| 01/09/05 20:47:49+-5 | <yem:#debate> | downloadable i hope. |
| 01/09/05 20:47:52+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | well i'm convince - I think that Labour/Greens have my vote |
| 01/09/05 20:48:02+-5 | <nil:#debate> | lennonnz: or you think he's stopped |
| 01/09/05 20:48:07+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | client-level eh? *doh* |
| 01/09/05 20:48:07+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | xyzzy: ah, it's mostly since lots of people fed them the right things in the making of it.. |
| 01/09/05 20:48:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | grm |
| 01/09/05 20:48:09+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | nil: he hasn't? |
| 01/09/05 20:48:11+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | LOL |
| 01/09/05 20:48:12+-5 | <dub:#debate> | the ISP should be the first contact as they are now |
| 01/09/05 20:48:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | asjl: the problem I have is that National are better overall but ICT Labour is far ahead! |
| 01/09/05 20:48:18+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | paradise.net do, don't they? |
| 01/09/05 20:48:23+-5 | <nil:#debate> | asjl: aww poor dpf will be hurt now 8) |
| 01/09/05 20:48:30+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | I have to agree with Plug's assessment. |
| 01/09/05 20:48:33+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I've got my OSS antispam stuff I've been working on |
| 01/09/05 20:48:37+-5 | * berend:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:48:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | does cunliffe get -1 for his green friends coalition comment? |
| 01/09/05 20:48:42+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I don't want the ISP filtering my email... but hey, ISP email sucks.. use gmail ;D |
| 01/09/05 20:48:42+-5 | <nil:#debate> | lennonnz: how are we to know if he uses offshore accounts and go from provider to provider |
| 01/09/05 20:48:47+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | national have better overalls? |
| 01/09/05 20:48:51+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: but it at least sounded like he'd understood it :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:48:56+-5 | * nil:#debate | isn't one of those ppl who follow spammers doings closely |
| 01/09/05 20:49:00+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, but gmail do filter your email.... |
| 01/09/05 20:49:00+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Willu: A sensible ISP _tags_ your email, so you can filter it easily |
| 01/09/05 20:49:03+-5 | <nil:#debate> | Bismillah probably knows more than I do |
| 01/09/05 20:49:06+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Isomer> i know |
| 01/09/05 20:49:10+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | niL: the guy from microsoft said alot of Spam coming into NZ was coming from NZ.. how do they (Microsoft) know? |
| 01/09/05 20:49:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: look. listen. |
| 01/09/05 20:49:14+-5 | * BlakJak:#debate | returns from the supermarket |
| 01/09/05 20:49:16+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | what did I miss? |
| 01/09/05 20:49:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if you are addressing someone sa |
| 01/09/05 20:49:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | say |
| 01/09/05 20:49:20+-5 | * sausage:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:49:20+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | tagging is best, but I don't have the pain of ISP email :) |
| 01/09/05 20:49:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Plug> blow a fuse |
| 01/09/05 20:49:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Isomer: with acolon |
| 01/09/05 20:49:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if you say plug> you are speaking as if I am speaking |
| 01/09/05 20:49:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | please be respectful. |
| 01/09/05 20:49:50+-5 | <dub:#debate> | most ISPs will turn off filtering, the majority dont want to have to filter tagged spam |
| 01/09/05 20:49:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | dub, indeed |
| 01/09/05 20:50:01+-5 | <gr8w11ne:#debate> | pdt throwing Maurice a lifeline |
| 01/09/05 20:50:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | bling bling for the nigeria scam |
| 01/09/05 20:50:06+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | oh for gods sake... how does Plug> look like your speaking :P |
| 01/09/05 20:50:08+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | some countries have laws that you cannot touch/reject ANY emails.. |
| 01/09/05 20:50:13+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | The complaints from users with "I didn't get my email" would likely far exceed complaints about getting spam |
| 01/09/05 20:50:13+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | microsoft datamines alleviated by spybot thank god |
| 01/09/05 20:50:14+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | email filtering uses a large chunk of cpu usage on our mailservers |
| 01/09/05 20:50:14+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dub: BUT they do it because customers want it |
| 01/09/05 20:50:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | willu: cos normally it says <Plug> foo |
| 01/09/05 20:50:18+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | well, if you're on dialup, you want it to go away, but it should still be an option.. |
| 01/09/05 20:50:19+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | sorry... echo for all and sound for stream, or echo for none, and no sound for stream. |
| 01/09/05 20:50:23+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | [Plug] i like fish |
| 01/09/05 20:50:23+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | has he declared that to the electoral commission |
| 01/09/05 20:50:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I am sitting nexst to greig, I say greig> foo when he speaks |
| 01/09/05 20:50:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | the accepted rule is you say Foo: hello |
| 01/09/05 20:50:35+-5 | <dub:#debate> | nil, I think I'm agreeing with you? |
| 01/09/05 20:50:41+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Reeeeveerrbbb! |
| 01/09/05 20:50:43+-5 | <nil:#debate> | arachnid: well most clued up ISPs know not to delete or bounce spam but isolate them somewhere so they can be retrieved |
| 01/09/05 20:50:43+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | willu: the colon is a good convention.. |
| 01/09/05 20:50:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | WHO SAID BLOGOSPHERE |
| 01/09/05 20:50:48+-5 | <moot:#debate> | i knew it! David Farrar *is* a space alien. |
| 01/09/05 20:50:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -2 for that |
| 01/09/05 20:50:48+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | reverberating... and it feels so good |
| 01/09/05 20:50:52+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | SOMEONE! |
| 01/09/05 20:50:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | fine i will use : |
| 01/09/05 20:50:55+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | hey |
| 01/09/05 20:50:57+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | ISPs shouldn't bounce, only tag. Unless the customer specifically opts into bounce/silent discard. |
| 01/09/05 20:50:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thank you willu |
| 01/09/05 20:51:01+-5 | * Steve2:#debate | hands jonny some echo cancellation devices |
| 01/09/05 20:51:02+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | aargh, now PDT's gone |
| 01/09/05 20:51:05+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 20:51:05+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | whos screwing with the audio feed |
| 01/09/05 20:51:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | SAY |
| 01/09/05 20:51:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BIG UPS TO WLUG |
| 01/09/05 20:51:10+-5 | * sausage:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:51:19+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | this is hilarious |
| 01/09/05 20:51:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: |
| 01/09/05 20:51:22+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Who do I send my hearing doctor bills to for the sudden volume changes? |
| 01/09/05 20:51:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BIG UPS TO WLUG |
| 01/09/05 20:51:22+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Here u goi WaiLUG |
| 01/09/05 20:51:27+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | comedy live ! |
| 01/09/05 20:51:29+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | GOGO CHAT |
| 01/09/05 20:51:31+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | hahahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:51:33+-5 | <dub:#debate> | sneep, reality is joe customer wants it, which you know |
| 01/09/05 20:51:33+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Waikato Linux Users Group |
| 01/09/05 20:51:34+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | move to wellington |
| 01/09/05 20:51:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | YAY |
| 01/09/05 20:51:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Waikato Linux Users Group |
| 01/09/05 20:51:37+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | WOOOOT! |
| 01/09/05 20:51:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but but but |
| 01/09/05 20:51:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | i want to hear PDT say "Big Ups To WLUG" :) |
| 01/09/05 20:51:45+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | woot |
| 01/09/05 20:51:46+-5 | <nil:#debate> | err wailug is not wlug I think |
| 01/09/05 20:51:53+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | dub, so they opt in. Takes all of a few seconds. |
| 01/09/05 20:51:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil: yeah we are? |
| 01/09/05 20:52:00+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | wlug == waikato |
| 01/09/05 20:52:07+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | You have to pay the fee first Plug :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:52:13+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | maurice looks really not interested, that's a shame.. |
| 01/09/05 20:52:14+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Plug: you need to get him to repeat a question with that in the text |
| 01/09/05 20:52:15+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | what's the wiki url |
| 01/09/05 20:52:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: I'll meet you ahlf way |
| 01/09/05 20:52:18+-5 | <nil:#debate> | isomer: hmm there's a wailug and a wlug mailing list listed in linux.net.nz |
| 01/09/05 20:52:21+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | asjl.. topic |
| 01/09/05 20:52:24+-5 | <nil:#debate> | indicating the are different |
| 01/09/05 20:52:37+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | ttp://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 20:52:40+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | wailug = wairarapa linux user group = pretty much dead |
| 01/09/05 20:52:45+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil: wai is wairapa or something isn't it? |
| 01/09/05 20:52:54+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | wellylug = wellington linux user group |
| 01/09/05 20:52:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: reload please |
| 01/09/05 20:53:01+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | asjl: http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate |
| 01/09/05 20:53:01+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | we need an IX in wairarapa. |
| 01/09/05 20:53:11+-5 | <dub:#debate> | sneep, joe customer will need to call the helpdesk to figure out how to opt in |
| 01/09/05 20:53:15+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ahh where trogs and keith hail from |
| 01/09/05 20:53:18+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | sneep, whats wrong with pnix :p |
| 01/09/05 20:53:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to me for getting wlug mentioned once |
| 01/09/05 20:53:26+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahah |
| 01/09/05 20:53:29+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | A wee plug? |
| 01/09/05 20:53:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he said PLUG |
| 01/09/05 20:53:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | !IHTTg |
| 01/09/05 20:53:33+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | not sure what the point of that small business support really will do anything.. |
| 01/09/05 20:53:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +2!!! |
| 01/09/05 20:53:36+-5 | * trogs:#debate | happy to peer with anyone |
| 01/09/05 20:53:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I go straight to 2 now |
| 01/09/05 20:53:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | One behind cunliffe. |
| 01/09/05 20:54:13+-5 | <nil:#debate> | trogs; IIRC there's a term for ppl like you 8) |
| 01/09/05 20:54:18+-5 | <daork:#debate> | is anyone streaming this shindig from os x? |
| 01/09/05 20:54:20+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | :P |
| 01/09/05 20:54:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | By the way PDT, WLUG is pronounced "double-U-LUG" :) |
| 01/09/05 20:54:26+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | minus score for ignoring the original question |
| 01/09/05 20:54:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BlakJak: to who? |
| 01/09/05 20:54:34+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | cunliff |
| 01/09/05 20:54:36+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | e |
| 01/09/05 20:54:40+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | ooooer |
| 01/09/05 20:54:43+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | Paul basically just had to say 'but what about'.. |
| 01/09/05 20:54:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Hooray |
| 01/09/05 20:54:46+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | and then re-ask |
| 01/09/05 20:54:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | he said penetration again |
| 01/09/05 20:54:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | that means him and I are tied |
| 01/09/05 20:54:50+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | anyone watch the finance spokespersons debate on sky which was on during this forum? |
| 01/09/05 20:54:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Bryin: only one point for that word |
| 01/09/05 20:54:58+-5 | * Willu:#debate | wants direct fibre access |
| 01/09/05 20:55:04+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:55:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | damn |
| 01/09/05 20:55:05+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | advanced home user == everyone in the chanel I guess |
| 01/09/05 20:55:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I want to vote for Cunliffe |
| 01/09/05 20:55:10+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | high-end is just as insane, it's rubbish it's any cheaper or better than other places |
| 01/09/05 20:55:10+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | well hes identified the right users.. |
| 01/09/05 20:55:14+-5 | <daork:#debate> | heh, direct fibre access |
| 01/09/05 20:55:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Brislen gets +1 |
| 01/09/05 20:55:26+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | shine the fiber right into your eye. |
| 01/09/05 20:55:27+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Isomer> maybe |
| 01/09/05 20:55:40+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | but i would say, most of us are only intermediate |
| 01/09/05 20:55:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | advanved IMO are coders, designers |
| 01/09/05 20:55:54+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | Hmm |
| 01/09/05 20:55:57+-5 | <CGI641:#debate> | what is this regulatory changes DC??? |
| 01/09/05 20:55:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: have you met Isomer? |
| 01/09/05 20:56:05+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | LLU! LLU! LLU! :) |
| 01/09/05 20:56:06+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Plug: no |
| 01/09/05 20:56:06+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, type /info |
| 01/09/05 20:56:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | You know this chat thing oyu're using? |
| 01/09/05 20:56:09+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | so Williamson would prefer to compensate for the high cost instead of addressing the high cost.. |
| 01/09/05 20:56:22+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | he misses the point that what is classified as an advanced home user now |
| 01/09/05 20:56:27+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | should be the benchmark for a normal home user in 2 years |
| 01/09/05 20:56:30+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | or less |
| 01/09/05 20:56:35+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | if we want to take the country forward |
| 01/09/05 20:56:42+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | without good upload speed, we can't contribute to the internet |
| 01/09/05 20:56:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | mattb: -1 for saying 'going forard' |
| 01/09/05 20:56:44+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I'm not saying Isomer isn't advanced, i don't know him... i just doubt that most of the people in this chat are |
| 01/09/05 20:56:45+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we can only take |
| 01/09/05 20:56:47+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | dpf: question for the politicians... do they have *any* idea of what a NearlyNet is??? |
| 01/09/05 20:56:52+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | mattb - but he didnt have the internet when he grew up.. so you dont need it |
| 01/09/05 20:56:54+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | .net user group |
| 01/09/05 20:56:56+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | REALLY GOOD |
| 01/09/05 20:57:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hmmm |
| 01/09/05 20:57:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | users groups +1 |
| 01/09/05 20:57:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I'm not a .net developer |
| 01/09/05 20:57:04+-5 | * Bryin:#debate | splutters |
| 01/09/05 20:57:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | .net -1 |
| 01/09/05 20:57:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | almost |
| 01/09/05 20:57:06+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so even |
| 01/09/05 20:57:07+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | oh really :P |
| 01/09/05 20:57:07+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 20:57:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | no change. |
| 01/09/05 20:57:11+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | .NET 0 |
| 01/09/05 20:57:13+-5 | <dub:#debate> | mattb, they should be using evil_bry as the benchmark |
| 01/09/05 20:57:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | fund wlug |
| 01/09/05 20:57:16+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | Willu: theres lots of high level people in the room in sitting in |
| 01/09/05 20:57:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -OR- |
| 01/09/05 20:57:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | say "Big Ups to WLUG" |
| 01/09/05 20:57:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and we wont want funding :) |
| 01/09/05 20:57:22+-5 | <metalL:#debate> | Question: What will the polititions do to encourage research and development here in New Zealand? |
| 01/09/05 20:57:28+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | meh, I don't see the point in getting govt to run forums |
| 01/09/05 20:57:34+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | nzgames.govt.nz .. w00t :) |
| 01/09/05 20:57:43+-5 | <CGI306:#debate> | Great Question! |
| 01/09/05 20:57:46+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | $1.50 ltr pretty cheap |
| 01/09/05 20:57:46+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | ok.. so hes plugging technology to allow more people to work from home.. |
| 01/09/05 20:57:47+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahahaha |
| 01/09/05 20:57:51+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Plug: Will you vote for the first person to say "Big ups to WLUG"? |
| 01/09/05 20:57:52+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | kyle> any how many of you is there ? over 100 would be a majority here |
| 01/09/05 20:57:52+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug angers? |
| 01/09/05 20:57:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BlakJak: -1 for saying 'plugging' ? |
| 01/09/05 20:57:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I like boys |
| 01/09/05 20:57:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | arachnid: yes! |
| 01/09/05 20:57:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | mentions gas agin |
| 01/09/05 20:57:59+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | way to bring the price of oil into the cost of broadband.. |
| 01/09/05 20:57:59+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | again |
| 01/09/05 20:58:00+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes only 17 votes cast so far at http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ - please do vote - last chance! |
| 01/09/05 20:58:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yes BlakJak indeed |
| 01/09/05 20:58:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | who mentioned oil? |
| 01/09/05 20:58:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to them |
| 01/09/05 20:58:13+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | wtf |
| 01/09/05 20:58:15+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ColinJ: what do you mean last chance ??? |
| 01/09/05 20:58:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Steve2: ? |
| 01/09/05 20:58:16+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | greens mentioned oil |
| 01/09/05 20:58:17+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | greenies did |
| 01/09/05 20:58:19+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | There you go, ICT ministers - one free vote for a simple statement! |
| 01/09/05 20:58:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I want to vote tomorrow |
| 01/09/05 20:58:21+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | centralised government run mailing lists ?? |
| 01/09/05 20:58:22+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | and yes, -1 |
| 01/09/05 20:58:22+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | CURTIS Plug |
| 01/09/05 20:58:25+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | after i've rewatched it |
| 01/09/05 20:58:26+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Colin: Vote early and vote often |
| 01/09/05 20:58:27+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | are these people on crack ? |
| 01/09/05 20:58:31+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | steve2: wow your lagged :) |
| 01/09/05 20:58:35+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | Nope P |
| 01/09/05 20:58:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Oi! |
| 01/09/05 20:58:36+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | dave : yeah.. |
| 01/09/05 20:58:38+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | =P |
| 01/09/05 20:58:40+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | turn off your cellphone |
| 01/09/05 20:58:41+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | 50 people in chat here, only 17 voted !!!! |
| 01/09/05 20:58:42+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | "a group like .net"? |
| 01/09/05 20:58:42+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | PHONE! |
| 01/09/05 20:58:43+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | stupid GSM phone |
| 01/09/05 20:58:45+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | BlakJak: those packets have to get somewhere somehow.. of course you need fossil fuels for that |
| 01/09/05 20:58:49+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | phone off :-) |
| 01/09/05 20:58:52+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | Willu: whle we are on air |
| 01/09/05 20:58:58+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | I didn't see the first half, so I haven't voted as I have no informed opinion |
| 01/09/05 20:59:00+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW -1, DC 2, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 20:59:06+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | kyle: IP over Petroleum-powered-carrier? |
| 01/09/05 20:59:10+-5 | <yem:#debate> | what does ICT stand for? |
| 01/09/05 20:59:11+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | keith_inz: Well, several of us probably voted more than once |
| 01/09/05 20:59:22+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | IP over Petroleum-powered-carrier == Lorrynet |
| 01/09/05 20:59:24+-5 | * metalL:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 20:59:25+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | ColinJ: does it count you if you haven't voted on all the options? |
| 01/09/05 20:59:33+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Oh darn wallingf |
| 01/09/05 20:59:34+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Questions page "a) Please say "Big Ups To WLUG" on the webcast. thank you" |
| 01/09/05 20:59:36+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | yep |
| 01/09/05 20:59:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if you somehow can get one of the MPs |
| 01/09/05 20:59:38+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | we don't care about the hip-hop stuff |
| 01/09/05 20:59:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | to say that |
| 01/09/05 20:59:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we get a vote for them! :) |
| 01/09/05 20:59:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: Yes? |
| 01/09/05 20:59:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we have done lots :) |
| 01/09/05 20:59:50+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | -1 for dragging in an issue that isn't even relavent.. |
| 01/09/05 20:59:51+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | -_- |
| 01/09/05 20:59:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dave2: to cunliffe? |
| 01/09/05 20:59:58+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we got wlug mentioned before |
| 01/09/05 21:00:00+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 21:00:02+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahahah |
| 01/09/05 21:00:06+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | -1 David |
| 01/09/05 21:00:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | govt innovating |
| 01/09/05 21:00:10+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | ooo go NBR |
| 01/09/05 21:00:11+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW -1, DC 1, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 21:00:16+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Fund Interop lab, fek well lagged |
| 01/09/05 21:00:16+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yeah right |
| 01/09/05 21:00:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | If you do that then I am currently winning on 2 points |
| 01/09/05 21:00:24+-5 | <CGI306:#debate> | nice one Dave |
| 01/09/05 21:00:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | virtual world? |
| 01/09/05 21:00:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | everyone vote for me :) |
| 01/09/05 21:00:28+-5 | <dub:#debate> | cunliffe seems to be felating the hippy |
| 01/09/05 21:00:37+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | 3[dave2] I didn't see the first half, so I haven't voted as I have no informed opinion Agrees |
| 01/09/05 21:00:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dub: fellatio is called 'coalition' thse days |
| 01/09/05 21:00:46+-5 | <nil:#debate> | we needto have more forumswith themrather than every election time |
| 01/09/05 21:00:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we will watch all night |
| 01/09/05 21:00:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | yeaH! |
| 01/09/05 21:00:55+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I will watch all night |
| 01/09/05 21:00:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 Maurice |
| 01/09/05 21:00:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we will watch all night! |
| 01/09/05 21:01:03+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 0, DC 1, MC -1 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 21:01:04+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Survivor: ICT! |
| 01/09/05 21:01:05+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | whos the chairman? |
| 01/09/05 21:01:06+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: a) |
| 01/09/05 21:01:10+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | we wont be on all night |
| 01/09/05 21:01:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | please make sure you thank us :0 |
| 01/09/05 21:01:15+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | :( |
| 01/09/05 21:01:17+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | ColinJ, I know :) |
| 01/09/05 21:01:20+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | chair = Peter Dengate Thrush |
| 01/09/05 21:01:20+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | please go overtime |
| 01/09/05 21:01:27+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | just tie the pollies to their seats |
| 01/09/05 21:01:29+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | beep beep = 9pm |
| 01/09/05 21:01:33+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | someone's watch is slow |
| 01/09/05 21:01:36+-5 | <nil:#debate> | oi they started late! |
| 01/09/05 21:01:38+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | w00t |
| 01/09/05 21:01:39+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 9.02pm |
| 01/09/05 21:01:41+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | Zoom in on Kate's hand to see if she has a ring on left hand |
| 01/09/05 21:01:41+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | nil: truth |
| 01/09/05 21:01:42+-5 | * Steve2:#debate | gets sleeping bag |
| 01/09/05 21:01:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | by Orcon's NTP server |
| 01/09/05 21:01:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: Thats dubious |
| 01/09/05 21:01:47+-5 | <nil:#debate> | they definitely started late as it was way past 7pm news when they started |
| 01/09/05 21:01:48+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Steve2: me too :P |
| 01/09/05 21:01:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and unaccepteable |
| 01/09/05 21:01:51+-5 | * nil:#debate | was looking at the clock |
| 01/09/05 21:01:53+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | oh, boo-hoo, crying about how it was too early is just sad |
| 01/09/05 21:01:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | unless you say Big Ups to WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:01:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:01:55+-5 | * keith_inz:#debate | slaps dpf around a bit with a large trout |
| 01/09/05 21:02:00+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | :-) |
| 01/09/05 21:02:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hehe |
| 01/09/05 21:02:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: you can be the new Ali G :) |
| 01/09/05 21:02:08+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | the trout |
| 01/09/05 21:02:14+-5 | * arachnid:#debate | slaps keith_inz around a bit with an overused mIRC macro |
| 01/09/05 21:02:15+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | O Behave !! |
| 01/09/05 21:02:16+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ColinJ: IS this going to be downloadable, i.e AVI ? Or are you going to stream it ? :( |
| 01/09/05 21:02:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: at around 10pm? |
| 01/09/05 21:02:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | tell the people that they have a few mins left to get IRC vots |
| 01/09/05 21:02:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | What about doing a torrent? |
| 01/09/05 21:02:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and announce the score :) |
| 01/09/05 21:02:27+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | does this make keith a slapper? |
| 01/09/05 21:02:41+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | Willu ask keith_inz |
| 01/09/05 21:02:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I likes dpf. :) |
| 01/09/05 21:02:46+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | "The next generation network"???? It's not all about Telecom!!!! |
| 01/09/05 21:02:48+-5 | <nil:#debate> | so who was th eother national party person in wgtn? |
| 01/09/05 21:02:48+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, it'll be like all the other r2 streams, it'll be downloadable |
| 01/09/05 21:02:50+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Willu: BT is a distribution method, not a format |
| 01/09/05 21:02:54+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | and dpf likes himself, too... |
| 01/09/05 21:02:57+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | we dont' have a ntp server |
| 01/09/05 21:03:04+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | arachnid> duh i know that |
| 01/09/05 21:03:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | it'll be anycast and stuff so torrents probably arent necessary |
| 01/09/05 21:03:11+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Yes - will all be downloadable, probably off the INZ site tomorrow night |
| 01/09/05 21:03:13+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | asjl: they mean Telecom's new IP dialtone, that won't be real IP dialtone but the same old crap over their private IP network |
| 01/09/05 21:03:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: the last question must be preceeded with "Big Ups to WLUG" ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:03:22+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i ment as oppsed to downloadable if they didn't have the bandwidth |
| 01/09/05 21:03:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | mw's point is very vlaid |
| 01/09/05 21:03:25+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Bible comment |
| 01/09/05 21:03:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | valid, please |
| 01/09/05 21:03:29+-5 | <nil:#debate> | keith: it says from 11pm tonight not tomorrow |
| 01/09/05 21:03:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | "Judge people by their fruits" |
| 01/09/05 21:03:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | not Vlad The Impaler |
| 01/09/05 21:03:36+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Labour getting Biblical |
| 01/09/05 21:03:37+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | passed on |
| 01/09/05 21:03:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Cunliffe looks bored |
| 01/09/05 21:03:44+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | keith_inz> Thankyou ! |
| 01/09/05 21:03:46+-5 | <Neil:#debate> | We are all helping the NGN - by paying Telecom accounts |
| 01/09/05 21:03:52+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | how did the force the power companies to seperate supply and generation |
| 01/09/05 21:03:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, : or , |
| 01/09/05 21:03:56+-5 | <nil:#debate> | beer for wlug! |
| 01/09/05 21:03:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | last minute votes please |
| 01/09/05 21:03:59+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | We're not paying a telecom account here. |
| 01/09/05 21:04:00+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: we dont want beer |
| 01/09/05 21:04:00+-5 | <moot:#debate> | I get bored too listening to MW |
| 01/09/05 21:04:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | not > |
| 01/09/05 21:04:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we want "Big Ups" |
| 01/09/05 21:04:12+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | ha ha, cheers internet nz for putting this together with NBR! |
| 01/09/05 21:04:15+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | greig wants beer |
| 01/09/05 21:04:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig> nil: I want beer! I'm the fist! |
| 01/09/05 21:04:21+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | greig> I want beer and I'm the fist |
| 01/09/05 21:04:58+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | nil - that might be from R2 / citylink site - but Rich and Citylink have already given so much to this project - prefer you hammer our bandwidth |
| 01/09/05 21:05:09+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | a member of what? |
| 01/09/05 21:05:19+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | But from behind Auck Uni firewall we have no way to get it onto our site |
| 01/09/05 21:05:23+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | we've been drinking all night |
| 01/09/05 21:05:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | BlakJak, "tower" I thought? |
| 01/09/05 21:05:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dpf: you and me both. but I'm not on tv. :) |
| 01/09/05 21:05:41+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | Internet and the Treaty! |
| 01/09/05 21:05:44+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | Iso: in context, that made no sense.. i think hes talking about a maori tribe |
| 01/09/05 21:05:46+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | -1, irrelevent |
| 01/09/05 21:05:48+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | te arawa? |
| 01/09/05 21:05:49+-5 | <asjl:#debate> | greens 1000 points!!!! |
| 01/09/05 21:05:50+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Remember membership of InternetNZ is only $50 +GST per year - and you get to learn the secret handshake |
| 01/09/05 21:05:55+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | the greens guy looks like bill mumy |
| 01/09/05 21:06:00+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahah |
| 01/09/05 21:06:00+-5 | <nil:#debate> | haha |
| 01/09/05 21:06:01+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, ooh |
| 01/09/05 21:06:04+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | (according to $flatmate) |
| 01/09/05 21:06:05+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | if this was /., like he's going on about, he'd be mod'd down so hard |
| 01/09/05 21:06:08+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 0, DC 1, MC -2 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 21:06:10+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs keith |
| 01/09/05 21:06:13+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | vitrupiol from the greens |
| 01/09/05 21:06:14+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i almost signed up, but i don't have $50 |
| 01/09/05 21:06:18+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | angry deadlocks! |
| 01/09/05 21:06:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yay for this question ! |
| 01/09/05 21:06:27+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | yep, InternetNZ membership is good :) |
| 01/09/05 21:06:29+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | I thought we could use the "I'm the man from NZNOG" handshake |
| 01/09/05 21:06:39+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | sneep, thats just a punch in the face |
| 01/09/05 21:06:44+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | There is only 1 man in NZNOG???? |
| 01/09/05 21:06:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I appreciate the branding of the quesitons as "from the Linux Users Group", but they are not our questions; they come from everyone here. |
| 01/09/05 21:06:53+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | current voting is just like lotto :) |
| 01/09/05 21:06:57+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | 1 man and lots of sheep |
| 01/09/05 21:07:04+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahah |
| 01/09/05 21:07:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Greens sounds like a talking /. RSS feed |
| 01/09/05 21:07:12+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahahaha |
| 01/09/05 21:07:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Did he mention /. again? |
| 01/09/05 21:07:19+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | $50c/vote! |
| 01/09/05 21:07:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | dpf: that drinking all night will mean steve2 and sneep will be at your doorstep waiting to join you |
| 01/09/05 21:07:21+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, http://www.nznog.org/photo/ |
| 01/09/05 21:07:22+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | no, scooop that time |
| 01/09/05 21:07:25+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 0, DC 1, MC -3 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 21:07:28+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to him then |
| 01/09/05 21:07:29+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | Plug: scoop that time |
| 01/09/05 21:07:33+-5 | * Neil:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 21:07:33+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | +1 for mention of open source |
| 01/09/05 21:07:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | he should formulate his own opinion |
| 01/09/05 21:07:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: good point |
| 01/09/05 21:07:45+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Big ups to WLUG | MW 0, DC 1, MC -2 : Vote http://vote.internetnz.net.nz/ | http://www.r2.co.nz/20050901/ vid | http://www.wlug.org.nz/ICTDebate questions |
| 01/09/05 21:07:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | If they mention paper backed |
| 01/09/05 21:07:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | paper trails |
| 01/09/05 21:08:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'll give a point |
| 01/09/05 21:08:02+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | I'm sorry, I like open source, but MC is just repeating /, rhetoric |
| 01/09/05 21:08:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Makaere didn't |
| 01/09/05 21:08:16+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | you also need to make sure that people place their votes without being under any duress from another party |
| 01/09/05 21:08:22+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | i think he's mentioning /. too much. |
| 01/09/05 21:08:25+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | dave2, MC == MK?! |
| 01/09/05 21:08:27+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | -_- |
| 01/09/05 21:08:31+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | oops |
| 01/09/05 21:08:34+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | dave2: On the plus side, he's attributing it correctly ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:08:37+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | +1 Williamson, reasonable arguement |
| 01/09/05 21:08:38+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Curtis not Kurtis :0 |
| 01/09/05 21:08:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Rachel Hunter's hair? |
| 01/09/05 21:08:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | :) |
| 01/09/05 21:08:44+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | not overnight, but it will happen |
| 01/09/05 21:08:44+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | minus the rachael hunter bit |
| 01/09/05 21:08:45+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | hehe |
| 01/09/05 21:08:47+-5 | <moot:#debate> | electronic voting != internet voting |
| 01/09/05 21:08:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BlakJak: sold |
| 01/09/05 21:08:48+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | we should start with at elast electronic counting |
| 01/09/05 21:08:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +0 |
| 01/09/05 21:08:51+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | chahaha, analogy |
| 01/09/05 21:08:52+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | oh for goodness sake, whats someone going to steal, your bank password or your voting password ??? |
| 01/09/05 21:08:56+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Yeah, he's talking about internet voting |
| 01/09/05 21:08:59+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | lord knows the last count took too damn long |
| 01/09/05 21:09:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Willu: your Trade Me password |
| 01/09/05 21:09:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | at the last election the govt was busy saying that they were going to go to electronic voting |
| 01/09/05 21:09:11+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | plug: nah keep the +1, dont minus for ms hunter :P |
| 01/09/05 21:09:12+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | after it took ages to count |
| 01/09/05 21:09:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dave2: www.wlug.org.nz/ElectionNightDrinkingGame |
| 01/09/05 21:09:15+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | i think it has merit |
| 01/09/05 21:09:18+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | Internet banking is a hell of a lot more important to people, then voting is |
| 01/09/05 21:09:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | The longer they take the better dave :) |
| 01/09/05 21:09:35+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | -1 Nats |
| 01/09/05 21:09:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | anyone corroborate Willu's biew? |
| 01/09/05 21:09:48+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | virew |
| 01/09/05 21:09:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ... |
| 01/09/05 21:09:52+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | view even |
| 01/09/05 21:09:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | laptop keyboard is too small |
| 01/09/05 21:10:16+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | electronic counting is not hard, come on people! |
| 01/09/05 21:10:25+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hanging chads! |
| 01/09/05 21:10:25+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | my point was that if people can keep their bank accounts secure, then so can voting |
| 01/09/05 21:10:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | A permanent Labour govt? |
| 01/09/05 21:10:29+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | One that never leaves? |
| 01/09/05 21:10:32+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | dave2: digital counting is even easier! |
| 01/09/05 21:10:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Grandpa Helen? |
| 01/09/05 21:10:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | OI |
| 01/09/05 21:10:42+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | The beehive needs to be rewired |
| 01/09/05 21:10:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I AM THE INTENRET PLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:10:43+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | dave2: the issue of 'who is who' and the potential for influencing someones vote is quite reasonable imho |
| 01/09/05 21:10:45+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | +1 National |
| 01/09/05 21:10:47+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to Maurice? |
| 01/09/05 21:10:52+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | 1 to national |
| 01/09/05 21:10:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so even then |
| 01/09/05 21:11:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | cos he can't mention the internet plug |
| 01/09/05 21:11:02+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | thats just stupid ! |
| 01/09/05 21:11:04+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | the pollys were offered cafenet in the chamber some years back. They turned it down. |
| 01/09/05 21:11:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | it's all meant to be wireless! |
| 01/09/05 21:11:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | jonny: point |
| 01/09/05 21:11:11+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | blakjak: sure, sure, but that's why I said counting, not voting.. |
| 01/09/05 21:11:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so +0 |
| 01/09/05 21:11:18+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Nice to hear goofing off at work is universal |
| 01/09/05 21:11:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | jonny, offer it again |
| 01/09/05 21:11:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | arachnid, heh |
| 01/09/05 21:11:26+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | hell, most other countries, the result is known 90 seconds after the poll closes |
| 01/09/05 21:11:35+-5 | * Plug:#debate | emails maurice |
| 01/09/05 21:11:37+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | True. Should be like Lotto in that respect |
| 01/09/05 21:11:47+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | It is? |
| 01/09/05 21:11:48+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | if i could irc from parliament id stand ;-) |
| 01/09/05 21:11:50+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | YAY |
| 01/09/05 21:11:55+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | kyle, heh |
| 01/09/05 21:11:57+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Parliamentary group on record... |
| 01/09/05 21:11:58+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | what a nice ending |
| 01/09/05 21:11:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to InterentNZ |
| 01/09/05 21:12:01+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 21:12:05+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | Internet Caucus |
| 01/09/05 21:12:07+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | well |
| 01/09/05 21:12:09+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | to mobilise post-election |
| 01/09/05 21:12:13+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | InterentNZ ?! |
| 01/09/05 21:12:14+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | I think that they should build a new parliment, one that is technology capable |
| 01/09/05 21:12:14+-5 | <ColinJ:#debate> | OK |
| 01/09/05 21:12:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | if I dont get a vote down in the next few mins |
| 01/09/05 21:12:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm afraid I will win :) |
| 01/09/05 21:12:22+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | DPF was going to bring it up, eh? |
| 01/09/05 21:12:22+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | IntarwebNZ |
| 01/09/05 21:12:26+-5 | <yem:#debate> | Internet Circus |
| 01/09/05 21:12:34+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | NO, not DPF... |
| 01/09/05 21:12:39+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | so... we'll have a parliamentary IRC server then? |
| 01/09/05 21:12:42+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes that the full results of the poll |
| 01/09/05 21:12:48+-5 | * neil:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:12:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you can beat us if you say "Big Ups to WLUG" rember |
| 01/09/05 21:12:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | PDT: |
| 01/09/05 21:12:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | MW 0 |
| 01/09/05 21:12:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | DC 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:12:56+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | lol bring on the parliamentary IRC channel :D |
| 01/09/05 21:12:57+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, use undernet! |
| 01/09/05 21:12:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | MC -2 |
| 01/09/05 21:12:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Plug 2 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:00+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | hah, if parl IRC is anything like NZNOG, it'll be a raiot |
| 01/09/05 21:13:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | PDT 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:03+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | greig 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | mattb 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:11+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | -a |
| 01/09/05 21:13:13+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | daork, indeed |
| 01/09/05 21:13:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | mattb -1 sorry |
| 01/09/05 21:13:13+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes that the fll results of the poll will be put up on the InternetNZ website along with audio and video archive from 6.00pm tomorrow (Friday) |
| 01/09/05 21:13:14+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | er |
| 01/09/05 21:13:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | intenretNZ 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:19+-5 | * neil:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 21:13:19+-5 | <daork:#debate> | hm? |
| 01/09/05 21:13:20+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | dave2, indeed |
| 01/09/05 21:13:20+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | dave2: less solitaire girls in parliament |
| 01/09/05 21:13:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Paul Brislen 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:27+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes that the full results of the poll will be put up on the InternetNZ website along with audio and video archive from 6.00pm tomorrow (Friday) |
| 01/09/05 21:13:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | ColinJ 1 |
| 01/09/05 21:13:31+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | /join #government |
| 01/09/05 21:13:32+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | in some overseas parls where laptops are connected MPs use it to abuse each other, IMing them how crap their speech was etc |
| 01/09/05 21:13:34+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | kyle: online soliatire!!! |
| 01/09/05 21:13:40+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | multiplayer :P |
| 01/09/05 21:13:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | PDT: "Big Ups to WLUG" |
| 01/09/05 21:13:45+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | all part of the gladitorial contest |
| 01/09/05 21:13:48+-5 | * Willu:#debate | is annoyed that he can't vote with an informed opinion |
| 01/09/05 21:13:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Brislen +! |
| 01/09/05 21:13:57+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | we're tied now |
| 01/09/05 21:13:59+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | beer....! |
| 01/09/05 21:14:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 for Bee On Topic |
| 01/09/05 21:14:02+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | 1 to brislen :) |
| 01/09/05 21:14:09+-5 | * Slacker:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:14:09+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | who made the comment about beer? |
| 01/09/05 21:14:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I am a bit sick of that |
| 01/09/05 21:14:17+-5 | * rachel:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:14:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | so he's back to 1 I'm afraid |
| 01/09/05 21:14:23+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | who are the people on the laptops ? |
| 01/09/05 21:14:33+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | rachel: are you from Domainz? |
| 01/09/05 21:14:40+-5 | <rachel:#debate> | no |
| 01/09/05 21:14:46+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +o then |
| 01/09/05 21:14:47+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | plug: WTF? |
| 01/09/05 21:14:51+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Willy - DPF on left and Phil O'Reilly on right |
| 01/09/05 21:14:53+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | sup tim |
| 01/09/05 21:14:54+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | One of the other 58,000 rachels in nz |
| 01/09/05 21:14:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | dave2: On what point sorry? |
| 01/09/05 21:14:57+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ah |
| 01/09/05 21:15:02+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | i am on right |
| 01/09/05 21:15:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I know one Rachel in ICT :) |
| 01/09/05 21:15:08+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | plug: the domainz comment.. :) |
| 01/09/05 21:15:11+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | oh no i am not from your view |
| 01/09/05 21:15:15+-5 | <tim:#debate> | BlakJak: howdy :) |
| 01/09/05 21:15:15+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | On the left, he is on the right. |
| 01/09/05 21:15:25+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hm |
| 01/09/05 21:15:27+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | signs on the forehead would do it |
| 01/09/05 21:15:28+-5 | * rachel:#debate | is the rachel from katipo |
| 01/09/05 21:15:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | PDT can win one for OSS here |
| 01/09/05 21:15:39+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Feedback on the poll to date indicates that Labour was preferred in the audience responses |
| 01/09/05 21:15:40+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hehe /me waves to dpf |
| 01/09/05 21:15:46+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | and the guy on the right |
| 01/09/05 21:15:47+-5 | * dpf:#debate | waves back |
| 01/09/05 21:15:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | congrats to labour |
| 01/09/05 21:15:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | BIG UPS TO WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:16:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | thanks #prompt :) |
| 01/09/05 21:16:04+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | go rich! |
| 01/09/05 21:16:07+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Plug: but why does WLUG need a big UPS? |
| 01/09/05 21:16:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | that exact phrase needs to be made |
| 01/09/05 21:16:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | xyzzy: they weren't thanke din the beginning |
| 01/09/05 21:16:17+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes that the full results of the poll will be put up on the InternetNZ website along with audio and video archive from 6.00pm tomorrow (Friday) |
| 01/09/05 21:16:21+-5 | * Willu:#debate | wonders when the next event like this will happen |
| 01/09/05 21:16:23+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | <3 Rich and R2 |
| 01/09/05 21:16:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | cos we helped out with the website |
| 01/09/05 21:16:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | <3 Rich |
| 01/09/05 21:16:32+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Go CityLink! |
| 01/09/05 21:16:33+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | GG Rich |
| 01/09/05 21:16:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and we provided lots of participation |
| 01/09/05 21:16:42+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | congrats Citylink + Richard |
| 01/09/05 21:16:48+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | we should all provide beer for rich at the next nznog so he turns up ;-) |
| 01/09/05 21:16:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | indeed |
| 01/09/05 21:16:58+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | yay ! thanks ! |
| 01/09/05 21:17:04+-5 | * ColinJ:#debate | notes that the full results of the poll will be put up on the InternetNZ website along with audio and video archive from 6.00pm tomorrow (Friday) |
| 01/09/05 21:17:09+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Thanks colinj. |
| 01/09/05 21:17:14+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | go go go go WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:17:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | hooray |
| 01/09/05 21:17:16+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | there you go plug |
| 01/09/05 21:17:16+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | WOOT |
| 01/09/05 21:17:17+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | lol |
| 01/09/05 21:17:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but they didnt' say BIG UPS |
| 01/09/05 21:17:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Congrats Plug :) |
| 01/09/05 21:17:26+-5 | <dpf:#debate> | are we putting up the chat channel archive? |
| 01/09/05 21:17:27+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | hamiltron city of the future |
| 01/09/05 21:17:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | :) |
| 01/09/05 21:17:33+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | hehe |
| 01/09/05 21:17:35+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | dpf> why not ? ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:17:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I tried so hard |
| 01/09/05 21:17:41+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | PDT: |
| 01/09/05 21:17:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | announce the IRC results |
| 01/09/05 21:17:46+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Congratulations all for participating in a piece of Internet history |
| 01/09/05 21:17:51+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | :D |
| 01/09/05 21:18:00+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | Good stuff, Keith. |
| 01/09/05 21:18:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith_inz: Thanks heaps for organising this. |
| 01/09/05 21:18:01+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, we shoudl update the NewZealandInternetHistory page |
| 01/09/05 21:18:03+-5 | <arachnid:#debate> | Do I get a commemorative figurine? |
| 01/09/05 21:18:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yeah |
| 01/09/05 21:18:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | three cheers for keith_inz |
| 01/09/05 21:18:08+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Yes we will |
| 01/09/05 21:18:09+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keith_inz, this was very cool |
| 01/09/05 21:18:09+-5 | <CGI963:#debate> | Hope Richard gets his hols soon - good Man!!! |
| 01/09/05 21:18:14+-5 | * cocojumbo:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:18:19+-5 | <jonny:#debate> | exit |
| 01/09/05 21:18:22+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | nun nite |
| 01/09/05 21:18:24+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | love you |
| 01/09/05 21:18:25+-5 | * nil:#debate | grins atjonny |
| 01/09/05 21:18:26+-5 | <wallingfo:#debate> | T shirts on sale from 6pm tomorrow. |
| 01/09/05 21:18:30+-5 | <nil:#debate> | err what's history about it? |
| 01/09/05 21:18:30+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | g'night |
| 01/09/05 21:18:31+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | Thanks everyone for your part in this too |
| 01/09/05 21:18:32+-5 | * Willu:#debate | decides to check back at 6pm tomorrow |
| 01/09/05 21:18:33+-5 | <yem:#debate> | vwd all |
| 01/09/05 21:18:38+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | laters |
| 01/09/05 21:18:40+-5 | <nil:#debate> | wallingford: t-shirts are no longer hip! |
| 01/09/05 21:18:45+-5 | <nil:#debate> | they want wristbands! |
| 01/09/05 21:18:48+-5 | <moot:#debate> | huzzah! |
| 01/09/05 21:18:50+-5 | <moot:#debate> | i can go home |
| 01/09/05 21:18:51+-5 | * nil:#debate | would prefer a t-shirt |
| 01/09/05 21:18:58+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | i hope you people can organize more events like this :D it was awesome ! |
| 01/09/05 21:19:02+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hmmm all droppinv out light flies |
| 01/09/05 21:19:05+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | well done everyone. |
| 01/09/05 21:19:07+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | back to #nzadsl we go |
| 01/09/05 21:19:08+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | :P |
| 01/09/05 21:19:08+-5 | <nil:#debate> | s/light/like/ |
| 01/09/05 21:19:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | noone has any staying power these days |
| 01/09/05 21:19:11+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | now all we need is the NZNOG video to be this good |
| 01/09/05 21:19:18+-5 | <dave2:#debate> | *bails* |
| 01/09/05 21:19:20+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, which NZNOG video? |
| 01/09/05 21:19:21+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | what sever is nzadsl ? |
| 01/09/05 21:19:23+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | afaik they are all up |
| 01/09/05 21:19:25+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | 3 cheers for INZ |
| 01/09/05 21:19:26+-5 | <BlakJak:#debate> | Undernet |
| 01/09/05 21:19:27+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ok if you guys want to talk morego to undernet #nzelection |
| 01/09/05 21:19:28+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Willu, eu.undernet.org |
| 01/09/05 21:19:30+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Isomer: the streamed stuff this year wasn't too hot |
| 01/09/05 21:19:30+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | that was excellent |
| 01/09/05 21:19:31+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | undernet.. try eu.undernet.org |
| 01/09/05 21:19:32+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | from what I saw |
| 01/09/05 21:19:33+-5 | <nil:#debate> | or #nzadsl where msot of us are anyway |
| 01/09/05 21:19:37+-5 | <mattb:#debate> | can't wait for the video to watch the first half |
| 01/09/05 21:19:45+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | w00t |
| 01/09/05 21:19:46+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, I watched it from the lecture theatres |
| 01/09/05 21:19:51+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Final scores: MW -1, DC 1, MC -1, PDT 1, Plug 2, greig 1, Phil in Wgtn -1, Paul Brislen 1, mattb -1, InternetNZ 1, Keith 1. THANKS ALL! |
| 01/09/05 21:19:56+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | 58meg of evdo data ! |
| 01/09/05 21:20:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Steve2, heh |
| 01/09/05 21:20:05+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Steve2: w00t |
| 01/09/05 21:20:06+-5 | <trogs:#debate> | night folks |
| 01/09/05 21:20:10+-5 | * trogs:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 21:20:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Steve2: if only you didn't, erm, work for telecom :) |
| 01/09/05 21:20:26+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | nice to know none of them understand peering |
| 01/09/05 21:20:29+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | Steve2: i hate you ;-) |
| 01/09/05 21:20:34+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Isomer: that's harder when you're in wellington |
| 01/09/05 21:20:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | kyle: but you also work for Tlecom |
| 01/09/05 21:20:38+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | plug : alkytel actually |
| 01/09/05 21:20:38+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | true |
| 01/09/05 21:20:43+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | I suppose this year it'll be easier :P |
| 01/09/05 21:20:44+-5 | <Steve2:#debate> | but close :-) |
| 01/09/05 21:20:47+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | but i dont have my t3g card |
| 01/09/05 21:20:48+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | s/this/next/ |
| 01/09/05 21:20:48+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hmm when i connect to #nzadsl its 4empty ? |
| 01/09/05 21:20:52+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, well, a long time ago they evented these things called "planes" |
| 01/09/05 21:20:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'll go on record as saying 'same diff' :) |
| 01/09/05 21:21:04+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | Willu: not this ircnet |
| 01/09/05 21:21:05+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Willu: get the right network perhaps |
| 01/09/05 21:21:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | kyle works for Telecom more than steve2. |
| 01/09/05 21:21:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, next year it's in wellyton we'll see you then |
| 01/09/05 21:21:09+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ah |
| 01/09/05 21:21:09+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | willu: type /server eu.undernet.org |
| 01/09/05 21:21:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | you know |
| 01/09/05 21:21:13+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | and then /join #nzadsl |
| 01/09/05 21:21:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | now this is finished |
| 01/09/05 21:21:17+-5 | * Neil:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:21:19+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | im teresa's manwhore |
| 01/09/05 21:21:26+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | WOULD BE THE PERFECT TIME TO COME BACK AND SAY 'BIG UPS TO WLUG' |
| 01/09/05 21:21:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | come on powerpoint guy |
| 01/09/05 21:21:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | edit a slide |
| 01/09/05 21:21:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | There's $100 in it for you |
| 01/09/05 21:21:42+-5 | <kyle:#debate> | bring up clippy |
| 01/09/05 21:21:48+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | who answered best! |
| 01/09/05 21:21:53+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahah |
| 01/09/05 21:21:57+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | who answered best |
| 01/09/05 21:21:59+-5 | * Willu:#debate | laughs at powerpoint guy |
| 01/09/05 21:22:07+-5 | * mattb:#debate LEFT | |
| 01/09/05 21:22:08+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | ask clippy to say big ups to WLUG! |
| 01/09/05 21:22:11+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | rdesktop in :P |
| 01/09/05 21:22:15+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | full screen it for goodness sake! |
| 01/09/05 21:22:23+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | It's the phrasing that matters |
| 01/09/05 21:22:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | it has to be in the next 8 mins |
| 01/09/05 21:22:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | cos Rockstar INXS is on next |
| 01/09/05 21:22:50+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | ooooh wow thats is like sooo cool !!!HAX!! |
| 01/09/05 21:23:05+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | _ /scarcastic |
| 01/09/05 21:23:08+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | $flatmate is hoping we'll get an amusing screensaver |
| 01/09/05 21:23:19+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | xyzzy, heh |
| 01/09/05 21:23:24+-5 | * Willu:#debate | wonders why he is still watching the feed |
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| 01/09/05 21:23:36+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | as the music is great |
| 01/09/05 21:23:38+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we're hoping for the screensaver |
| 01/09/05 21:23:53+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | LennonNZ: i hope your joking ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:23:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | LennonNZ, ask r2 for a link apparently it's freely redistributable |
| 01/09/05 21:24:09+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | but whats the bandname |
| 01/09/05 21:24:18+-5 | <nil:#debate> | well keith did say he'd rather we get it off internetnz than use r2's bandwidth |
| 01/09/05 21:24:22+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | I like the harmonica |
| 01/09/05 21:24:31+-5 | <nil:#debate> | so what we need is to ask them for the stuff so we can host it elsewhere for them |
| 01/09/05 21:24:50+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | well |
| 01/09/05 21:24:56+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hrm |
| 01/09/05 21:25:01+-5 | <nil:#debate> | jeremy: are you in wgtn or auckland? |
| 01/09/05 21:25:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I'm sure we can score some hosting for them |
| 01/09/05 21:25:13+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | We'll arrange hosting if oyu want |
| 01/09/05 21:25:15+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | how much crap does the powerpoint guy have in his systray |
| 01/09/05 21:25:18+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | too much |
| 01/09/05 21:25:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | look |
| 01/09/05 21:25:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | $100 |
| 01/09/05 21:25:23+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 21:25:24+-5 | <yem:#debate> | what's the debate on tv1 about? |
| 01/09/05 21:25:30+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | does anyone want nznog.org.nz? ..? |
| 01/09/05 21:25:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | for BIG UPS FOR WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:25:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | yem: Rockstar INXS on 3 in 3 mins |
| 01/09/05 21:25:39+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | nil: Akld |
| 01/09/05 21:25:41+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | hes probably got spyware (powerpoint guy) |
| 01/09/05 21:25:45+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | who runs nznog.org so I can give it to them |
| 01/09/05 21:26:02+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | LennonNZ, currently wand |
| 01/09/05 21:26:07+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | but that'll probably change at some point |
| 01/09/05 21:26:09+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Plug: Cunlipps?! |
| 01/09/05 21:26:13+-5 | <nil:#debate> | jeremy: maybe I'll see you later if work stuff cooperates |
| 01/09/05 21:26:19+-5 | * nil:#debate | shakes fist at computer |
| 01/09/05 21:26:41+-5 | <yem:#debate> | oh the 8 party leaders by the looks |
| 01/09/05 21:26:42+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | nil: why's that - are you near us? |
| 01/09/05 21:26:48+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | yem: One News Special: Leaders' Debate - Finance |
| 01/09/05 21:26:48+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | TVNZ Political Editor Mark Sainsbury hosts a debate about the economy, with input from finance spokespeople from all eight political parties. |
| 01/09/05 21:26:52+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | _Jeremy: do you have access to the powerpoint machine? |
| 01/09/05 21:26:52+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | 8 party leaders? |
| 01/09/05 21:27:00+-5 | * Willu:#debate | closes it and goes and watches the debate on tv1 |
| 01/09/05 21:27:02+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | xyzzy: yes - it's right next to me |
| 01/09/05 21:27:05+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | oooooh |
| 01/09/05 21:27:11+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | _Jeremy: change it to say "big ups to WL |
| 01/09/05 21:27:16+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | er. "BIG UPS TO WLUG" |
| 01/09/05 21:27:17+-5 | <LennonNZ:#debate> | type "BIG UPS to WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:27:26+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | the wlug people here will be very happy with you :-) |
| 01/09/05 21:27:27+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | I wish I could record that debate on TV1 |
| 01/09/05 21:27:28+-5 | * yem:#debate | stabs key |
| 01/09/05 21:27:40+-5 | <yem:#debate> | _Jeremy: it must be almost over |
| 01/09/05 21:27:52+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | nah - I'm not changing it now, sorry |
| 01/09/05 21:27:55+-5 | <nil:#debate> | _jeremy: email me and if yem has it you can get it off me |
| 01/09/05 21:28:10+-5 | <yem:#debate> | i haven't been recording this one |
| 01/09/05 21:28:15+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | nil: nope - I'm not doing any e-mail atm, sorry |
| 01/09/05 21:28:18+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | only IRC |
| 01/09/05 21:28:32+-5 | <yem:#debate> | the tv debates are largely awful |
| 01/09/05 21:28:33+-5 | <nil:#debate> | oh well yem doesnt have it. I am sure someone has it |
| 01/09/05 21:28:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | roffle |
| 01/09/05 21:28:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | i come back from saying goodbye to my guests |
| 01/09/05 21:28:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and eveyrone else is pushing for BIG UPS TO WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:28:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I love you all guyus |
| 01/09/05 21:29:04+-5 | * nil:#debate | hugs plug |
| 01/09/05 21:29:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 1 min jeremy, then Rockstar starts |
| 01/09/05 21:29:07+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | feel the love |
| 01/09/05 21:29:07+-5 | <keith_inz:#debate> | OK goodnight all - and again thanks for making tonight a success |
| 01/09/05 21:29:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: <3 |
| 01/09/05 21:29:16+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | keith_inz: no problem :D |
| 01/09/05 21:29:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | karaoke++ :) |
| 01/09/05 21:29:20+-5 | <nil:#debate> | big UPs to PLug <3 <3 |
| 01/09/05 21:29:29+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | yes, scorekeeper |
| 01/09/05 21:29:35+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 21:29:37+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | irc doesn't count for this exercise |
| 01/09/05 21:29:37+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | keithh: thanks to you |
| 01/09/05 21:29:38+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | plug owes beer! |
| 01/09/05 21:29:42+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 21:29:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sneep: come here and say that |
| 01/09/05 21:29:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | cancelling against Isomer doesn't count :) |
| 01/09/05 21:30:04+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 21:30:07+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | hahahah |
| 01/09/05 21:30:08+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Next time I'm in the tr0n I will! |
| 01/09/05 21:30:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | 20/20 tv 3 |
| 01/09/05 21:30:10+-5 | <Bryin:#debate> | Recruiting porn stars from our universities. The King of Sleaze, Steve Crowe puts up $10,000 in a competition to entice students with debt into the porn industry. Lisa Glass is on the set with the finalists of this "Porn Idol" and raises the question - is the short term monetary gain worth the potential long term pain? |
| 01/09/05 21:30:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | please do |
| 01/09/05 21:30:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm told that you come this way often |
| 01/09/05 21:30:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'll, erm, 'show you a good time' |
| 01/09/05 21:30:41+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 21:30:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | _Jeremy: past 9:30 |
| 01/09/05 21:30:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but anyway |
| 01/09/05 21:30:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | can you change the powerpoint please? |
| 01/09/05 21:31:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | "BIG UPS TO WLUG" |
| 01/09/05 21:31:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Just add it to the channel/. |
| 01/09/05 21:31:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil agrees, don't you nil? |
| 01/09/05 21:31:36+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | Plug: no - I can't, sorry |
| 01/09/05 21:31:38+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | not now |
| 01/09/05 21:31:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and I think I heard lennonNZ mention it oto |
| 01/09/05 21:31:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | those guys are my proverbial parents ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:31:53+-5 | <tim:#debate> | catch you guys later :) Hi _Jeremy :) |
| 01/09/05 21:32:12+-5 | * _Jeremy:#debate topic | Final scores: MW -1, DC 1, MC -1, THANKS ALL! |
| 01/09/05 21:32:17+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | hey tim :) |
| 01/09/05 21:32:21+-5 | * AEnertia:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:32:26+-5 | <tim:#debate> | how's things? |
| 01/09/05 21:32:32+-5 | * Plug:#debate topic | Final scores: MW -1, DC 1, MC -1, Plug 2: THANKS ALL! |
| 01/09/05 21:32:36+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | good thanks :) |
| 01/09/05 21:32:43+-5 | * _Jeremy:#debate topic | Final scores: MW -1, DC 1, MC -1, THANKS ALL! |
| 01/09/05 21:32:50+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | Plug: behave :P |
| 01/09/05 21:32:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Serious |
| 01/09/05 21:32:58+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hehe |
| 01/09/05 21:33:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | check the wiki page |
| 01/09/05 21:33:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I did win |
| 01/09/05 21:33:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | at least he didn't do plug 100 |
| 01/09/05 21:33:07+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | are the downloads up yet? |
| 01/09/05 21:33:07+-5 | * siti:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:33:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | by virtue of keeping score I think |
| 01/09/05 21:33:11+-5 | <nil:#debate> | no |
| 01/09/05 21:33:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | feel free to check the scrollback |
| 01/09/05 21:33:19+-5 | <nil:#debate> | wait till 11pm at least or tomorrow is better |
| 01/09/05 21:33:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I kept it honest |
| 01/09/05 21:33:20+-5 | <tim:#debate> | night all |
| 01/09/05 21:33:26+-5 | <nil:#debate> | which tim is this? |
| 01/09/05 21:33:35+-5 | <tim:#debate> | thomson |
| 01/09/05 21:33:36+-5 | * AEnertia:#debate | nudges _Jeremy |
| 01/09/05 21:33:46+-5 | <tim:#debate> | came up to nznog with ewen |
| 01/09/05 21:33:50+-5 | * CGI634:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:33:58+-5 | * nil:#debate | wonders if jeremy is someelse |
| 01/09/05 21:34:00+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | aha |
| 01/09/05 21:34:01+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Changed the channel now. |
| 01/09/05 21:34:05+-5 | <nil:#debate> | ahh hi to ewen from me! |
| 01/09/05 21:34:11+-5 | * nil:#debate | waves to ewen via tim |
| 01/09/05 21:34:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Do we have bigups yet? |
| 01/09/05 21:34:20+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: did you see the discuss@ list? |
| 01/09/05 21:34:20+-5 | <tim:#debate> | ha, haven't seen him in ages! |
| 01/09/05 21:34:21+-5 | * _Jeremy:#debate | nudges back to AEnertia |
| 01/09/05 21:34:39+-5 | <tim:#debate> | haven't seen anyone, I keep missing the wellylug meetings! |
| 01/09/05 21:34:40+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | tim: guess? |
| 01/09/05 21:34:50+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | yeah - you do too! |
| 01/09/05 21:35:04+-5 | <nil:#debate> | plug: what discuss@ list? |
| 01/09/05 21:35:14+-5 | * nil:#debate | is largely occupied elsewhere |
| 01/09/05 21:35:19+-5 | * siti2:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:35:25+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | BTW anyone in wellington wants to help out on the 10th for SFD stuff please get in contact with me |
| 01/09/05 21:35:27+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hrm |
| 01/09/05 21:35:31+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | so I need to code up a worm |
| 01/09/05 21:35:34+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | SFD? |
| 01/09/05 21:35:35+-5 | <nil:#debate> | SFD??? |
| 01/09/05 21:35:39+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | for the elections |
| 01/09/05 21:35:40+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Serious Fraud Department? |
| 01/09/05 21:35:40+-5 | * siti2:#debate joined | |
| 01/09/05 21:35:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Software Freedom Day |
| 01/09/05 21:35:44+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | We have CD's and Ballons + pamphlets to hand out in CBD/Manners mall |
| 01/09/05 21:35:49+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | hi |
| 01/09/05 21:35:50+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | http://www.mattb.net.nz/discuss-linuxnz-invitation.html |
| 01/09/05 21:35:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | AEnertia: Joel? |
| 01/09/05 21:35:58+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | siti2, you're a bit late |
| 01/09/05 21:35:59+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | what happened? I missed it :( |
| 01/09/05 21:36:09+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | Plug, yas who else? |
| 01/09/05 21:36:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | plug was the winner on the night |
| 01/09/05 21:36:16+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | Plug = $[] |
| 01/09/05 21:36:25+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 44 edits on the wiki page |
| 01/09/05 21:36:27+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | hmm? |
| 01/09/05 21:36:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | AEnertia: I dont speak Perl |
| 01/09/05 21:36:46+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | powerpoint man: press space |
| 01/09/05 21:36:47+-5 | <tim:#debate> | _Jeremy: hopefully I'll make it to this next wellylug |
| 01/09/05 21:36:56+-5 | * AEnertia:#debate | merely indicates that Plug could be an array of people |
| 01/09/05 21:36:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | halochch: hit mouse BIG UPS TO WLUG |
| 01/09/05 21:37:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | AEnertia: not quite |
| 01/09/05 21:37:03+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I am one |
| 01/09/05 21:37:09+-5 | <halochch:#debate> | EOF |
| 01/09/05 21:37:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and I had a few people watch the webcast at my house |
| 01/09/05 21:37:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | isomer, greig, kyle |
| 01/09/05 21:37:19+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | + others not on IRC |
| 01/09/05 21:37:26+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | I still have not seen it |
| 01/09/05 21:37:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | AEnertia: The stream has died here |
| 01/09/05 21:37:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but Rockstar is on :) |
| 01/09/05 21:37:46+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | I was tutoring, and no one gave me a internal mcs link to use |
| 01/09/05 21:38:07+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | Stupid mms |
| 01/09/05 21:38:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | AEnertia: are you a Tool fan perchance? :) |
| 01/09/05 21:38:21+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | the streams will be up at 6pm tomorrow |
| 01/09/05 21:38:34+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | y do you ask? |
| 01/09/05 21:38:38+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 21:38:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | your nick gives it away |
| 01/09/05 21:38:48+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | can anyone kick my ghost ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:39:04+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | Wha? No it's an unrelated coincidence |
| 01/09/05 21:39:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | there are no ops |
| 01/09/05 21:39:07+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | ok |
| 01/09/05 21:39:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | AEanything == Tool :) |
| 01/09/05 21:39:36+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Is anyone else watching Rockstar? |
| 01/09/05 21:39:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Please change to TV3 |
| 01/09/05 21:39:47+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | so what happened in the debate, anything interesting? |
| 01/09/05 21:40:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | siti2: scrollback will be posted :) |
| 01/09/05 21:40:28+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | I Like tool yes, but i've had my nick since before ?nima came out |
| 01/09/05 21:40:42+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | fair enough |
| 01/09/05 21:40:56+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | i'm sorry for random person on discuss@ ruining your SFD thread :) |
| 01/09/05 21:41:21+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | Plug: ok |
| 01/09/05 21:41:44+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | I hope they will fix up telecom |
| 01/09/05 21:41:59+-5 | <siti2:#debate> | it sucks so bad getting 3k downloads :'( |
| 01/09/05 21:42:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | You will have to vote for Cunlipps for that |
| 01/09/05 21:42:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but you will have to get National with DC as ICT minister for success! |
| 01/09/05 21:42:35+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | anyway anyone here who wants to help with SFD in wellington see this page: http://interface.org.nz/ifwiki/?xembed=SoftwareFreedomDay and e-mail me |
| 01/09/05 21:42:45+-5 | * _Jeremy:#debate topic | BIG UPS TO WLUG! THANKS ALL! |
| 01/09/05 21:42:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | _Jeremy: is that on the webcast now? |
| 01/09/05 21:43:07+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | Plug: is what on it, sorry? |
| 01/09/05 21:43:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | meh |
| 01/09/05 21:43:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 Jermey |
| 01/09/05 21:43:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | jeremy |
| 01/09/05 21:43:38+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | yeah Plug? |
| 01/09/05 21:43:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | +1 to JD for soudning like Michael Hutchence :) |
| 01/09/05 21:44:15+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | pump the font size up to "Isomer" and just webcast the IRC channel :) |
| 01/09/05 21:44:23+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 21:44:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | My TV can't handle fonts at size Isomer |
| 01/09/05 21:44:36+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | my Dad wants his T3G card back now! |
| 01/09/05 21:44:39+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | GTG, sorry |
| 01/09/05 21:44:47+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | see ya |
| 01/09/05 21:44:55+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | bye :)_ |
| 01/09/05 21:44:57+-5 | <_Jeremy:#debate> | bye :) |
| 01/09/05 21:45:08+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | :) ! ! :) ! ! |
| 01/09/05 21:45:42+-5 | <xyzzy:#debate> | Isomer: isn't the "Isomer" font size time-dependent? |
| 01/09/05 21:45:50+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | does tend to be |
| 01/09/05 21:46:25+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 21:46:31+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I think JD is hugely talented |
| 01/09/05 21:46:38+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but plays it like he is on Survivor |
| 01/09/05 21:46:45+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | and as such has to go soon |
| 01/09/05 21:46:49+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Survivor: INXS |
| 01/09/05 21:46:54+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | or be kept till 3rd to last as he's a "bad guy" |
| 01/09/05 21:47:01+-5 | <siti:#debate> | arg, this program needs to use ajax |
| 01/09/05 21:47:03+-5 | <AEnertia:#debate> | Kraftwork |
| 01/09/05 21:47:05+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | are -you- ready for a new sensation? |
| 01/09/05 21:47:22+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | siti, what program? |
| 01/09/05 21:47:47+-5 | <siti:#debate> | irc :( |
| 01/09/05 21:47:53+-5 | <siti:#debate> | anyway you can join with a normal client? |
| 01/09/05 21:47:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Yes |
| 01/09/05 21:48:00+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 21:48:00+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | indeed I have now |
| 01/09/05 21:48:08+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I'm using my own client at the moment |
| 01/09/05 21:48:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | it helps I have the author of the IRC server in the room with me |
| 01/09/05 21:48:17+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 21:48:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I may otherwise have tried something lamer :) |
| 01/09/05 21:48:21+-5 | <siti:#debate> | ok bbs |
| 01/09/05 21:48:43+-5 | <nil:#debate> | is that a bit of name dropping there, Plug |
| 01/09/05 21:49:14+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | half of undernet seem to drop my name |
| 01/09/05 21:49:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: if you'd like. no offence to said person, but there are people i'd rather have in the room with me. why didn't Katie Melua write OSS? :) |
| 01/09/05 21:49:15+-5 | <nil:#debate> | shoudl have sent siti to undernet |
| 01/09/05 21:49:27+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Isomer: am i allowed special treatment? :) |
| 01/09/05 21:49:39+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | you require special treatment plug |
| 01/09/05 21:49:44+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | come cuddle me isomer |
| 01/09/05 21:49:49+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | <I realise this is going to be bad> |
| 01/09/05 21:49:55+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | isagyha' |
| 01/09/05 21:49:56+-5 | <nil:#debate> | hahaha |
| 01/09/05 21:49:58+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | THAT WAD BAD |
| 01/09/05 21:50:02+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | <3 nil |
| 01/09/05 21:50:03+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | please help me |
| 01/09/05 21:50:10+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I didn't really want that :) |
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| 01/09/05 21:50:21+-5 | <siti:#debate> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX |
| 01/09/05 21:50:29+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | indeed |
| 01/09/05 21:50:32+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 1. Cleaning product. |
| 01/09/05 21:50:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | 2. See nerd. |
| 01/09/05 21:50:54+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | 3. there is no 3 |
| 01/09/05 21:51:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Andrew Farriss is weird |
| 01/09/05 21:51:52+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | -1 to JD |
| 01/09/05 21:51:59+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | inxs are NOT one of the biggest bands ever |
| 01/09/05 21:52:04+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | they are convenient for this TV show |
| 01/09/05 21:52:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: are you still at curry? |
| 01/09/05 21:52:23+-5 | <nil:#debate> | no i am still at work |
| 01/09/05 21:52:29+-5 | <nil:#debate> | and this talk on irc has delayed me 8( |
| 01/09/05 21:52:34+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I'm sorry |
| 01/09/05 21:52:45+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | nil needs a hug too |
| 01/09/05 21:52:53+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | sucks to take 45 mins to make a 10 min drive, even at 12am :) |
| 01/09/05 21:54:13+-5 | <siti:#debate> | this is hardly relevant, but for someone who cares, it's a linux machine I setup a while ago for a business: http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uptime1kh.jpg (excuse ssh session) |
| 01/09/05 21:54:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | nil: I'll be there on Sat. But I can't guarantee success :) |
| 01/09/05 21:54:39+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | uptime is very very overrated |
| 01/09/05 21:54:47+-5 | <siti:#debate> | hehe :) |
| 01/09/05 21:54:51+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | it means 'kernel wasn't fixed for security patches; |
| 01/09/05 21:55:04+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 21:55:10+-5 | <siti:#debate> | just because you can't get it ;) |
| 01/09/05 21:55:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I could |
| 01/09/05 21:55:21+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but I don't see the point |
| 01/09/05 21:55:27+-5 | <siti:#debate> | have you guys seen kexec? |
| 01/09/05 21:55:30+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | yes |
| 01/09/05 21:55:35+-5 | <siti:#debate> | that's so cool :D |
| 01/09/05 21:55:35+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | jane has 82 days uptime :) |
| 01/09/05 21:55:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | we've got machines that have rolled over |
| 01/09/05 21:56:11+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | MiG for the win. |
| 01/09/05 21:56:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | You concur? |
| 01/09/05 21:56:50+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | I don't really understand the show |
| 01/09/05 21:57:24+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Look. |
| 01/09/05 21:57:40+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | If you recomend ubuntu because Craig Box tells you to, then you should be prepared for advice :0 |
| 01/09/05 21:58:10+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | oh |
| 01/09/05 21:58:11+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | Sure |
| 01/09/05 21:58:13+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | MiG will win |
| 01/09/05 21:58:16+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | :) |
| 01/09/05 21:58:30+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | MiG is Brian May's bitch |
| 01/09/05 21:59:19+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | I had a machine's uptime counter wrap under 2.2.13. |
| 01/09/05 21:59:48+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | you wonder over and go "hey, theres a computer here, when did that happen?" |
| 01/09/05 21:59:49+-5 | <sneep:#debate> | Infact, it came close to wrapping twice. |
| 01/09/05 21:59:52+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | heh |
| 01/09/05 22:01:04+-5 | * Plug:#debate | raps. |
| 01/09/05 22:01:15+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Nowadays everybody wants to talk like they got something to say |
| 01/09/05 22:02:12+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | but nothing comes out when they move their lips |
| 01/09/05 22:02:17+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | just a bunch of jibberish |
| 01/09/05 22:03:14+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | the mo'fo's act like they forgot about Dre! |
| 01/09/05 22:03:18+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | keith isn't here any more |
| 01/09/05 22:03:22+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | I guess we can be nastier :) |
| 01/09/05 22:03:26+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | hmm |
| 01/09/05 22:03:44+-5 | <Isomer:#debate> | half hour episodes are a lot shorter than they used to be |
| 01/09/05 22:05:43+-5 | <Plug:#debate> | Erectile disfunction on Prime |
| 01/09/05 22:08:23+-5 | <yem:#debate> | ciao |
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| 01/09/05 22:18:17+-5 | <greig:#debate> | wtf am I still doing here? |
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| 01/09/05 22:25:56+-5 | * Willu:#debate | askes the same question |
| 01/09/05 22:26:51+-5 | <Willu:#debate> | see you later.. thanks for the feed ;) |
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| 02/09/05 04:03:03+-5 | <niltestin:#debate> | hmmm |
| 02/09/05 04:03:10+-5 | <niltestin:#debate> | interesting using this cgi chat facility |
| 02/09/05 04:03:20+-5 | * niltestin:#debate | waves to sneep and steve |
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